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Old 11-14-2007, 01:32 PM
Freyjan Freyjan is offline
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Default Possible to get away earlier?

Just curious if there was any way I could have lost fewer chips on this hand. I wanted to slow down on the turn, but the flop smooth call wasn't really enough to convince me he had something good yet.

No good reads... fairly quick STT with everyone playing moderately TAG.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t30/t60
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t3027
Button: t1876
SB: t4777
Hero: t3820

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls t60 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t90)</font>, Button folds, SB calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t150)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t200</font>, UTG calls t140 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t260)</font>, SB folds.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t460, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t400</font>, UTG calls t400 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t860)</font>.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t1260, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t750</font>, UTG calls t750 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t2010)</font>.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t2760, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Results:
Final pot: t2760
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed Qs Qc</font>
<font color="#ffffff">UTG showed Ah Ac</font>
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:43 PM
Takeover_inc Takeover_inc is offline
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Default Re: Possible to get away earlier?

I would have bet more on the turn, like t1000, then shove any river card.

Also knowing what stakes this is would be helpful.

Other than betting more on the turn i don't know what to tell you. I think your way ahead the majority of the time, and you need to get as many chips in the middle as you can.
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: Possible to get away earlier?

I would have raised to 240 ish, as a general rule I raise 3x +1x per every limper. This will allow us to bet larger on the flop and extract more value from the hand. As played, flop bet is fine, turn I think is ok though I might bet more b/c utg seems intent on calling (his line looks like a small overpair). On the riv, a 6 probably doesn't help villain so I am shoving there.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:05 PM
wiggs73 wiggs73 is offline
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Default Re: Possible to get away earlier?

Yeah, I agree this is a tough decision, assuming that by "possible to get away earlier" you mean "is it higher EV to shove the river hoping smaller pairs call or to check/call the river hoping to induce a bluff by the 2384923 missed draws there are". But yeah, idk, it's close... I don't really have a problem with either.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: Possible to get away earlier?

Villain obv has 33 but is afraid you have 66.
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