I need advice on achieving my goals wrt sexual intercourse

[madnak]

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Fair enough.

Any good at +EV games? Build it.

Get a good hairdresser, preferably female, strike up a relationship with her. Tell her what you want, tell her she can go nuts. Trust her. It won't be just about the hair.

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Money.

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Volunteer your time in places where you'd be interested, and where many SFW's work/play. Libraries, for instance. It's ok to be quiet. Just develop the confidence in the silent relationships.

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At the place I volunteer, there's only old men [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I'll do what I can at volunteer events and things.

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Money != success and you know this.

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Depends on what kind of "date" you're looking for.

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But it does make things easier.

Fallback approach if you've still got that last-step confidence, great escort agency, blah, blah. Vegas does all this well, but most major metros have a structure in place. Don't ask, don't tell.

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Yup. Starting at $200/hr for a "less-than-great" agency. Ain't happening, not now anyhow.

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You're not paying for the act, you're paying for what they can teach you.

All in all, this would be an optimal approach for geeks. Ask Bill. He didn't jump from the garage to Melinda overnight.

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He had to get rich first?

[traz]

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Exponentially? How can I do this? I've tried going to bars and ordering a couple drinks (which I can't even afford now [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] ) and it doesn't seem to work. Hard to even catch a girl's eye, and they ALWAYS travel in packs! And these were supposed to be singles bars. Plus I hate the environment.

Parties? I wouldn't know how to get invited to one, a "real" one anyhow. Hmm.

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I don't know what your social circle is like, but you need to expand it. You need to meet friends, meet their friends, and meet their friends, and then when you go to the bar, meet some more of their friends who happen to be at the bar. If you have trouble making friends, then you need to start there and not even think about girls.

[madnak]

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If you have trouble making friends, then you need to start there and not even think about girls.

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This is probably the advice I was looking for, thanks!

[Bill King]

booze

[Toe-Knee]

Have you ever heard of social anxiety disorder? I've just recently been diagnosed, and am improving my socializing soooo much. Google it if ya want, just a thought.

[Guyon]

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Have you ever heard of social anxiety disorder? I've just recently been diagnosed, and am improving my socializing soooo much. Google it if ya want, just a thought.

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Good to hear...Out of curiousity, how have you made such improvements?

Also, isn't Xanax indicated in social AD?

[Toe-Knee]

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Have you ever heard of social anxiety disorder? I've just recently been diagnosed, and am improving my socializing soooo much. Google it if ya want, just a thought.

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Good to hear...Out of curiosity, how have you made such improvements?

Also, isn't Xanax indicated in social AD?

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I exaggerated a bit, I've still got a lot of work to do. What I did though, is I finally got the balls to go to the counseling center on campus, and they referred me to an on campus psych. I've gone through some CBT (Cognitive-behavioral therapy), and so far it has really started to help. Also I've been reading up some self help stuff that has also helped somewhat.

Yeah I think xanax can be used. From what I've read the most effective meds for SA are MAOIs, which I'm kinda scared to take. I've heard good things about kava though, and I might give that a shot.

I got a lot of info here-> Socialfear.com

[Claunchy]

I would just like to point out how funny it is that a seemingly intelligent person could stumble upon these boards (which have thousands of dollars of information within them) and complain about being broke.

POKER. LEARN IT. PROFIT.

[SHOwnsYou]

In your posts on this thread so far, you seem rediculously negative.

That is a HUGE TURNOFF with a high rate of success for landing in the friend zone, if even doing that well.

[Rick Nebiolo]

I found my way over here because this thread was linked to from "The Lounge". I don't want modern college youth to think a creepy 52 year old man is hanging out in the hallways. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

A while back Bruiser brought up a similar topic. In perhaps his and a few other threads I believe I mentioned the importance of reading serious modern fiction that is written by woman. That's one way to get into their heads, and see their view of men through their eyes.

Eventually you are going to become more comfortable with and more attractive to women, and when you do it's great if you learn to be good in bed. You'll probably never get there listening to advice from men/guys/boys. And you might be surprised to find out that a guy who is essentially starting out as a bit of a geek can be (and probably will be) better than a rock star in bed if he takes the time to learn. The fact is most men are delusional regarding their sexual abilities. But you are starting from the right point and can avoid these delusions.

In the mid seventies Shere Hite wrote the "Hite Report". I was a semi-nerd/geek who a few years earlier had been rejected in my quest for a prom date. A few years after reading Hite I married a prom queen (and I was broke). What I learned in the Hite Report (along with reading the aforementioned fiction) changed my life, at least in how it relates to women.

Anyway, in this thread I wrote two posts on Hite. I also wrote at least two posts in this thread. I think this was my last comment on Hite. In case I missed a link, you might want to search on my username and +Hite +Report. Of course many others in these threads had comments you might find helpful too.

Cliff notes version: The Hite Report may be thirty years old, but I believe a lot of what it has to say rings true today. After all, clitoris don't change much over time (that is until you learn how to touch and lick them just right). [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

~ Rick