Overpairs vs. aggression...when do we get it in?

[Jouster777]

Villain has only been at table a couple orbits. Vague impression he's a bit aggro but not really out of line.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $41.50
<u>BB: $25.50</u>
<font color="black">UTG: $27.40</font>
CO: $6.95
<u>Hero (BTN): $25.50</u>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, SB folds, BB calls $1, UTG calls $1

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($3.85) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.50</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $5</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $2.50

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($13.85) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets all-in for $19.25</font>, Hero calls all-in for $19.25

<font color="blue">So when I get it in in these spots and win I think I made a good play and when I call off my stack I think I should have known better. Is this call pretty standard? Anyone folding? Pushing to the minraise? </font>

[Bramsterdam]

I might be folding here. If you're planning to get it in, why not 3bet flop?

[sdunsmb]

Well, I would probably bet bigger on the flop - around 3.5, but it doesnt matter too much.

I pretty much agree with your statement here:

"So when I get it in in these spots and win I think I made a good play and when I call off my stack I think I should have known better"

Its a tough decision on the turn here. I will call or fold based on reads/my feel of the player + TBH I will rarely fold this if I am at all tilting.

[sdunsmb]

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I might be folding here. If you're planning to get it in, why not 3bet flop?

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Maybe he didnt plan on getting it in?..Its not as if he knew Villian would Overbet turn all in..

[Jouster777]

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I might be folding here. If you're planning to get it in, why not 3bet flop?

[/ QUOTE ]I usually take a minbet as v.strong vs. marginal/probing. Pushing the flop only gets called when I'm beaten (and sometimes AJ). If I just call flop I can get the probers to bet again before getting it in.

[sdunsmb]

agreed ^

[prodonkey]

min check raise then overbet shove.. your Q's are toast. He's prolly got 4's or 7's.. it makes me puke as many times as I've paid these idiots off doing this.

[Jouster777]

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min check raise then overbet shove.. your Q's are toast. He's prolly got 4's or 7's.. it makes me puke as many times as I've paid these idiots off doing this.

[/ QUOTE ]I get in a zone with OP's and often get it in before fully evaluating. I won this one (he had 88) but I'd love to hear more opinions about how strong the check/minraise is here vs. an ~aggro/unknown.

[Davey Valentine]

Well he only called your raise preflop, he check raised you on the flop and he pushes when the scare card comes (9 gives a few straight draws) smells like a set to me!

[Margin Of Error]

This is a set ALOT at micro stakes, def a marginal spot. I'm usually getting it in here if villian is either loose or overaggro but not happy about it.