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Old 11-20-2006, 08:23 AM
pual pual is offline
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Default NL400 fold set to river push?

Villain is 20/14 TAG over 550 hands. I don't recall seeing many bold plays from him (hand occurred a while ago).

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $425.70
Hero: $824.40
Button: $499
SB: $469.20
BB: $172.60

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $15</font>, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($47, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $35</font>, Button calls, BB folds.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($117, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $90</font>, Button calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($297, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button is all-in $359</font>, Hero...?.

Results:
Final pot: $1015
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Old 11-20-2006, 08:51 AM
Petteri Petteri is offline
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Default Re: NL400 fold set to river push?

You induced bluff. You have to call. If straight draw or backdoor flush draw got there so will be.

Call and you will catch busted flush draw or two pair hand often enough to justify call. You also keep your opponents honest.

You also should bet more turn if you think villain could be drawing.
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Old 11-20-2006, 08:56 AM
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Default Re: NL400 fold set to river push?

What are other viable lines? Lead 1/2 pot and fold to AI reraise?
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Old 11-20-2006, 09:12 AM
Petteri Petteri is offline
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Default Re: NL400 fold set to river push?

I do not see other than check-call or check-fold lines against good player. You do not have enough money for strong bet-fold.

But against weak players small blocking bet(like 80 $) could work. I am not fan of blocking bets, but against weak opposition they can be useful.
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:15 AM
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Default Re: NL400 fold set to river push?

I would bet the full pot on the flop because you're up against 2 players and there's plenty of draws possible. Though I suppose it doesn't make a difference, really.

I'd lead the river as well. The only two hands I would worry about are KQs and QTs. Does a "20/14 TAG"-type o' guy play these hands?

Like this other dude said - your river check induces a bluff so you cannot really fold. I would never block here, any bet on the river would be for value.

If he did hit it - yuck. I don't see any way you could have avoided it; nice hand.
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:34 PM
PatInTheHat PatInTheHat is offline
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Default Re: NL400 fold set to river push?

Looks good. Now call.
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:48 PM
luckychewy luckychewy is offline
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Default Re: NL400 fold set to river push?

bet more on the flop, otherwise is fine as long as you don't fold here.
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:53 PM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: NL400 fold set to river push?

Just a little bit more on flop and turn eliminates any need for overbetting, anywhere in the hand.

LOL at folding the river.
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:54 PM
Dan BRIGHT Dan BRIGHT is offline
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Default Re: NL400 fold set to river push?

fold river he has the ace
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: NL400 fold set to river push?

ZOMG QT!@!!
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