10/20 KK in deep stacked situation. LIVE @ commerce

CASINOCASINO · #1 07-09-2006, 05:29 PM

Okay so,
2 red kings in MP.

UTG+1 makes it 40 to go, 1 caller.
Folded to me in MP I make it 200 to go, (effective stack is just over 5k, I have a crazy loose image, showing down a bunch of sucessfull bluffs, and everyone knows i am a very solid lag)
Mike (live@the bike) calls the 200.
Very tight, young, smart/tricky, winning villan makes it 600 to go from the button.
Folded to me, i make it 900 more... Mike folds.
Villan thinks for a few minutes, counts his cash and chips, and calls.
Flop comes JJ4 2 (2 hearts)
I check, villan thinks and throws a rack of $10 chips totaling $1000.

My line at this point?

flawless_victory · #2 07-09-2006, 05:33 PM

ALLIN.
if u cant push here and be happy about it, dont RR this guy preflop...

AlwaysAir · #3 07-09-2006, 05:59 PM

villains stack?

CASINOCASINO · #4 07-09-2006, 06:17 PM

Me, mike and villan all have 5.5kish

scorer · #5 07-09-2006, 07:02 PM

I know this is not the popular thing on this board...buttt....looks like he has aces my friend. And with this board the likeliness you hit a set is practiculaly nill from his point of view..doubtfull he thinks you have quads jacks and you wouldnt raise two's. That leaves what looks like queens,kings,aces.with my bet on him having aces..hence the extreme confidenece.

AlwaysAir · #6 07-09-2006, 07:04 PM

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I know this is not the popular thing on this board...buttt....looks like he has aces my friend. And with this board the likeliness you hit a set is practiculaly nill from his point of view..doubtfull he thinks you have quads jacks and you wouldnt raise two's. That leaves what looks like queens,kings,aces.with my bet on him having aces..hence the extreme confidenece.

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Confidence might be from the fact that he's playing against a widerange possibly putting his AKs/QQ/JJ infront. I don't think his range for squeezing a solid LAG and mike is that small... depends if you really think he pondered the call.

sawseech · #7 07-09-2006, 08:08 PM

call. expect a check behind on the turn. value bet the riv expecting a call from alot worse hands then u'd think. tbh i'd be more worried about a T coming down than a Q or a heart.

if he raises the riv allin and a T didn't come, i like a call. especially if a rag heart falls.

i think he has tens, and the reasons are labyrinthine.

revlis87 · #8 07-09-2006, 08:09 PM

casino,

you are in no way a "solid" lag.

ok, proceed with discussion.

muxplust · #9 07-10-2006, 02:38 AM

all in

flytrap · #10 07-10-2006, 02:57 AM

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I know this is not the popular thing on this board...buttt....looks like he has aces my friend. And with this board the likeliness you hit a set is practiculaly nill from his point of view..doubtfull he thinks you have quads jacks and you wouldnt raise two's. That leaves what looks like queens,kings,aces.with my bet on him having aces..hence the extreme confidenece.

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Confidence might be from the fact that he's playing against a widerange possibly putting his AKs/QQ/JJ infront. I don't think his range for squeezing a solid LAG and mike is that small... depends if you really think he pondered the call.

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I don't see the villains range being that wide at all. UTG raised, showing at least a little strength, hero re-raised showing more strength, there was cold call. Now the villain makes a big re-raise in the face of all this strength. The fact that he just called heros re-raise to $900 doesn't disuade me at all, since the cold-caller folded and villain knew it would be heads-up with position. I think it's wishful thinking to put him something other than AA, KK, or maybe QQ and AK. I honestly don't know the right play on this hand, but I think there is a good chance the villain has aces.