Enaugh to fold KK preflop?

ok2aa · #1 10-18-2006, 07:24 PM

Villain in this hand is a solid player, i haven't been playing any pots with him but have raised his BB few times and won them uncontested. I haven't seen him reraising preflop earlier (some time ago there was a hand where he raised 3xBB UTG, shortie pushed 20BB and i reraised to $60 with AK, we chopped the pot with the shortie and villain claimed that he folded AK). My image is very aggressive, I have reraised a lot from the blinds and taken down the pot either preflop or with cbet every time.

The CO has been to our table only for few orbits but has been very aggressive.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP ($42.23)
CO ($116.20)
Button ($102.40)
Hero ($162.18)
BB ($378.60)
UTG ($100)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
2 folds, CO raises to $3, Button raises to $9, Hero (poster) raises to $27.5, BB calls $377.60 (All-In).

Final Pot: $418.60

delta k · #2 10-18-2006, 07:25 PM

dudez, i never fold KK pf. i always push regardless of the action.

RunyonAve · #3 10-18-2006, 07:28 PM

If you fold you hate money.

bilbo-san · #4 10-18-2006, 07:42 PM

Raise more first time.

Dunno this is a strange bet. He either hopes you have KK or hopes you'll fold QQ.

Since I am not sure which, I'd call [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Novles · #5 10-18-2006, 07:46 PM

Call if CO and button both fold. If one of them comes along, you're toast. And make your 4-bet ~$35.

ymu · #6 10-18-2006, 08:06 PM

This could easily be AA hoping to isolate - but given the history, it could just as easily be QQ offering a coinflip, or even AKs getting fed up with you. You have 19% equity against the worst case scenario and are a clear favourite against the others and there's plenty of dead money in the pot.

Call.

NinetyEight · #7 10-18-2006, 08:10 PM

Call.

TNUC · #8 10-18-2006, 08:13 PM

Three weeks ago i would never fold KK pre-flop. actually i still dont fold KK preflop . But i can now understand why some people do as i have had KK v AA a ridiculous amount of times ,many deep stacked and plays like the hand posted against solid players this always seem to be aces. i think im just running bad tho so nevermind.

jfq4999 · #9 10-18-2006, 08:24 PM

What's it I've read on SSNL before? Something like "God kills a kitten every time you fold KK preflop"?

loveminuszero · #10 10-18-2006, 08:30 PM

Call