10k$ EPT Monte Carlo: Hand vs Greg Raymer

TimberBee · #1 06-02-2007, 07:15 PM

Hero is a young, talented online pokerplayer, and has played a lot of sng's and tournaments. He's also played some SnG's with Raymer online, and they've barely met in real life.

Raymer has a reputation for being aggressive, and is sometimes appending a LAG style early in the tournament.

Hero has 8k after some unfortunate hands, Raymer has 9k, after he lost 6k with a weird c/r/f on the river in an earlier hand.

The table is very hard, with a lot of european proffessionals.

Startstack is 15k, blinds are 25/50.

Folded to Hero on the button. Hero raises to 150T$ with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Raymer raises to 450T$ from the SB, BB folds. Hero raises to 1500T$. Raymer pushes all in, and hero calls.

Discuss

gobboboy · #2 06-02-2007, 07:37 PM

Don't 4bet. You have position. Once he 5bets you have to instamuck. He doesn't make gigantic moves like this. There's absolutely no reason to.

stealthmunk · #3 06-02-2007, 07:49 PM

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Don't 4bet. You have position. Once he 5bets you have to instamuck. He doesn't make gigantic moves like this. There's absolutely no reason to.

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loooooooooooooooooooooool, wrong...but i know the results so i'm biased but raymer now that he's loaded loves to just say all in n not care.

TimberBee · #4 06-02-2007, 07:55 PM

I should clarify that I didn't play this hand myself. Just found it interesting. Don't want no mixups here...

betgo · #5 06-02-2007, 08:47 PM

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Don't 4bet. You have position. Once he 5bets you have to instamuck. He doesn't make gigantic moves like this. There's absolutely no reason to.

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I don't really like the 4-bet, but once you 4-bet, I would call the push button vs. BB given hero's image and villain's reputation.

Ansky · #6 06-02-2007, 09:25 PM

the 4bet is certainly fine but def muck now. If he's making a move, then u gotta just say congrats greg 15k for 1500 is really worth the risk at 25/50.

snelgrave · #7 06-02-2007, 09:28 PM

call the reraise pf and play poker. getting 160 BB in the middle w/AKo pf is awful.

nath · #8 06-02-2007, 09:32 PM

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15k for 1500 is really worth the risk at 25/50.

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hero has 8k and raymer has 9k, which is very different than 15k apiece

so he's putting in 6500 to win 9500 which i think is enough to make this a call given the other factors (position, Raymer's aggressiveness and the chance he's in a mood to go big or go home).

g0lfa · #9 06-02-2007, 10:04 PM

let me guess, raymer has 8s8h???

Schaefer · #10 06-02-2007, 10:10 PM

To me, it depends on how active I've been. If I've been opening a lot in LP or Greg has been reraising me a lot then I 4-bet and call his shove every time. I understand that it's 160 BBs but you have AK in a button vs BB hand against a very aggressive player. If I've been quiet or he's respected my raises then I probably just call the 3-bet. I think prior history is very important in these spots.