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Old 02-21-2007, 11:41 AM
barryc83 barryc83 is offline
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Default Re: A2s at 25NL: What am I representing with this play?

Yeah this is good bc hes short, with regualr stacks dont do this obv. I agree with sanchez, hes not folding a FD here like ever. FD is teh nuts, you didnt know?
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Old 02-21-2007, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: A2s at 25NL: What am I representing with this play?

Just raise a normal amount here (PSRish).

You're not increasing your FE much vs a shorty by shoving, and you get a chance of seeing a free turn card if he calls.
Make sure that you play sets/2pair the same way and you should do fine.
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Old 02-21-2007, 11:42 AM
TheRenaissance TheRenaissance is offline
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Default Re: A2s at 25NL: What am I representing with this play?

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Its a personal choise I guess. If you get rakeback go for it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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IT IS NOT A PERSONAL CHOICE.
WE ARE A FAVORITE/IN GREAT SHAPE AGAINST ANYTHING BUT A SET.
IT IS REALLY QUITE SIMPLE.
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Old 02-21-2007, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: A2s at 25NL: What am I representing with this play?

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Its a personal choise I guess. If you get rakeback go for it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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IT IS NOT A PERSONAL CHOICE.
WE ARE A FAVORITE/IN GREAT SHAPE AGAINST ANYTHING BUT A SET.
IT IS REALLY QUITE SIMPLE.
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not to mention you're not in horrible shape vs a set
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Old 02-21-2007, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: A2s at 25NL: What am I representing with this play?

Omg I totally appology. I did not notice the gutshot. Raise is good.
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Old 02-21-2007, 11:51 AM
Atlanta Andrew Atlanta Andrew is offline
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Default Re: A2s at 25NL: What am I representing with this play?

This play works best the more likely you are in a situation where only two options exist: (A) villain is folding or (B) all the money is going in. If this were the case, hero wants to maximize his folding equity by pushing.

I think that the villain is a bit too deep to do it in this hand, though. The beneifits gained by only raising to $4 are:

1. Possible free card on the turn.
2. Committing villain to call with a marginal hand when he calls flop raise and you spike.
3. Only a small change in fold equity from the push.

These benefits are meaningless if you know that your only possible outcomes are "A" and "B", but this villain is deep enough to give the three benfits listed some consideration.

-Andrew
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Old 02-21-2007, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: A2s at 25NL: What am I representing with this play?

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This play works best the more likely you are in a situation where only two options exist: (A) villain is folding or (B) all the money is going in. If this were the case, hero wants to maximize his folding equity by pushing.

I think that the villain is a bit too deep to do it in this hand, though. The beneifits gained by only raising to $4 are:

1. Possible free card on the turn.
2. Committing villain to call with a marginal hand when he calls flop raise and you spike.
3. Only a small change in fold equity from the push.

These benefits are meaningless if you know that your only possible outcomes are "A" and "B", but this villain is deep enough to give the three benfits listed some consideration.

-Andrew

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I think pushing is best because the following might happen:
Turn blank, check check, river blank, check...
And this will happen almost half the time.

Also if you make a normal raise villains stack will be tiny in relation to the pot if he calls. This makes the rest of the hand awkward.
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Old 02-21-2007, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: A2s at 25NL: What am I representing with this play?

based on his stack size i think its good. hes gonna call if he hit that flop and you have a ton of outs.
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Old 02-21-2007, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: A2s at 25NL: What am I representing with this play?



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I think pushing is best because the following might happen:
Turn blank, check check, river blank, check...
And this will happen almost half the time.


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Please explain to me why this action is a bad thing when the turn and river are blanks.

-Andrew
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Old 02-21-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: A2s at 25NL: What am I representing with this play?

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I think pushing is best because the following might happen:
Turn blank, check check, river blank, check...
And this will happen almost half the time.


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In that case, you've lost less than when you were pushing, got called, and the turn and river bricked.
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