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Old 11-13-2007, 12:32 AM
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" hiring jeff tedford or jon gruden hiring jeff tedford or jon gruden"

gruden would destroy college football.

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Gruden does seem a perfect fit for college. Is this just wishfull thinking or is there a rumor out there or any reason to think this might happen?
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:48 AM
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Gruden's a terrible fit for college football. Look at the kind of quarterback he prefers, he's always been best with a veteran. He was practically scooping up anyone with 10+ years experience this season, can you imagine how a bunch of 18-22 year olds would drive him crazy?
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:52 AM
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" hiring jeff tedford or jon gruden hiring jeff tedford or jon gruden"

gruden would destroy college football.

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Gruden does seem a perfect fit for college. Is this just wishfull thinking or is there a rumor out there or any reason to think this might happen?

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Just what alluded to above; that in some interview he was asked what his ideal job would be and he said coaching at Michigan. But I wouldn't read a ton into that, given the throwaway context of it.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:28 AM
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BTW on Miles, I reserve judgment on most of his work since I just haven't seen enough or don't know enough about it all. But, one thing: turning Okie State from crap into a respectable team is pretty impressive. Not so much for that alone, but because he did it at the same time Oklahoma and Texas were getting really good again. It'd be one thing if he exploited a downturn by division and recruiting rivals, but he didn't.

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This is honestly the most comforting thing to me about him. To make that team good with Texas and Oklahoma recruiting like they were at the time is very, very impressive.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:07 AM
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It's a long shot but I am begging, please, ONE TIME...Brian Kelly. I can't stress this enough and nobody will listen anyway, but I swear this would be a great hire.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:09 AM
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Can anyone defend Les Miles as far as gameday coaching goes?

I'm scared that Michigan will hire a Michigan man and we will be stuck with Les for the next couple of decades even if he goes 7-5 or 8-4 year in, year out.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:59 AM
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Can anyone defend Les Miles as far as gameday coaching goes?

I'm scared that Michigan will hire a Michigan man and we will be stuck with Les for the next couple of decades even if he goes 7-5 or 8-4 year in, year out.

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I'm certainly not qualified, but maybe you could be more specific? Are you talking about playcalling, 4th downs, etc?

Again, not qualified, but my sense is that Matt Flynn just isn't very good, and with Doucet injured as well it makes more sense to feature a run-heavy gameplan. Really the only thing I've seen that I thought was definitely wrong was running 3 plays in the last minute and 30 against Auburn. Otherwise he seems to have a grasp of what to do on 4th downs, whether or not he does any sort of cost-benefit analysis, it looks like he gets it right most of the time. And he seems willing to hire top-notch coordinators, although others have suggested he isn't willing to trust them enough.

I am intrigued by Brian Kelly, though, and would give him a lot of consideration too.\
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Old 11-13-2007, 10:53 AM
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Can anyone defend Les Miles as far as gameday coaching goes?

I'm scared that Michigan will hire a Michigan man and we will be stuck with Les for the next couple of decades even if he goes 7-5 or 8-4 year in, year out.

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I'm certainly not qualified, but maybe you could be more specific? Are you talking about playcalling, 4th downs, etc?

Again, not qualified, but my sense is that Matt Flynn just isn't very good, and with Doucet injured as well it makes more sense to feature a run-heavy gameplan. Really the only thing I've seen that I thought was definitely wrong was running 3 plays in the last minute and 30 against Auburn. Otherwise he seems to have a grasp of what to do on 4th downs, whether or not he does any sort of cost-benefit analysis, it looks like he gets it right most of the time. And he seems willing to hire top-notch coordinators, although others have suggested he isn't willing to trust them enough.

I am intrigued by Brian Kelly, though, and would give him a lot of consideration too.\

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I should have worded that better. I'm not saying that Miles sucks. It's just that that's all I ever hear. I guess the only things I've seen are what you mentioned and all of those fourth downs against Florida. I didn't like that at all. I'm just wondering if he really is not a very good X's and O's guy.
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