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Old 07-23-2007, 07:25 AM
kewl_cph kewl_cph is offline
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Default NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?

Second orbit, so no reads on villian.

With the flop texture and villians stack I snapcalled his CRAI. I later began thinking it was a borderline call. How dry must the flop be for me to fold and how big a stack must villian have for me to fold here?


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $99.55
UTG+1: $72.75
CO: $147.50
Button: $130.35
SB: $78.10
BB: $42.10

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, 4 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($8.5, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $38.1</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($84.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $84.7)


River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($84.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $84.7)


Results:
Final pot: $84.7
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Old 07-23-2007, 07:26 AM
Daddy Warbucks Daddy Warbucks is offline
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Default Re: NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?

Unless villain is an unbelievably huge nit, never fold this ever.

EDIT: Stack sizes, don't EVER EVER fold
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Old 07-23-2007, 07:27 AM
Roger Mainfield Roger Mainfield is offline
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Default Re: NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?

Ahhh snap call? Villian started with 42bbs, and it's an extremely drawing flop. No one is going to say fold this.
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Old 07-23-2007, 07:30 AM
oyvindgee oyvindgee is offline
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Default Re: NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?

Flop could be T62r and it would still be a snap call.
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Old 07-23-2007, 07:53 AM
spyderracing spyderracing is offline
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Default Re: NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?

If you took a T26r flop and put it in a jar filled with dessicant and then threw it in a toaster oven it wouldn't be dry enough to fold given stack sizes. Obv you lost the hand, bummer.
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Old 07-23-2007, 07:54 AM
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Default Re: NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?

This is an easy call.
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:28 AM
BountyKilla BountyKilla is offline
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Default Re: NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?

DO not fold....
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:34 AM
ycjason ycjason is offline
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Default Re: NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?

with As.. almost never, maybe 3 bet pot against nit, flop QKx and get CRAI for POT+, you should fold As as mostly likely you are against a set of Qs or Ks here

with smallish over pair lower than Ts, there are many situation a fold is correct.
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:23 AM
1gotth3nuts 1gotth3nuts is offline
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Default Re: NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?

dont fold ever b/c villain is so short
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:26 AM
Sciolist Sciolist is offline
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Default Re: NL100: Overpair CRAI on flop. When do we fold?

I cannot think of a single flop I would ever fold with these stack sizes. I was going to say Kh Qh Jh, but I can see him showing up with AK, naked Ah, Ah Q, etc.
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