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Old 06-23-2007, 10:44 PM
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Default Nut straight 200bbs deep, river pairs board :(

Villain is 40/20 ish. Clear bet right, but how much? Also, is this a bet/fold or a bet/call if we get raised? I'm pretty sure I hate this river card since a decent amount of his range filled up, meh. Opinions?

Party Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $385.20
BB: $426.41
UTG: $213.47
CO: $98.10
BTN: $225.55

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO calls $2.00, BTN folds, Hero calls $1.00, BB checks

Flop: ($6) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $5.00</font>, BB calls $5.00, <font color="red">CO raises to $10.00</font>, Hero calls $5.00, BB calls $5.00

Turn: ($36) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $15.00</font>, CO calls $15.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $100.00</font>, BB calls $85.00, CO folds

River: ($251) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ???
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Old 06-23-2007, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: Nut straight 200bbs deep, river pairs board :(

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Villain is 40/20 ish. Clear bet right, but how much? Also, is this a bet/fold or a bet/call if we get raised? I'm pretty sure I hate this river card since a decent amount of his range filled up, meh. Opinions?

Party Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $385.20
BB: $426.41
UTG: $213.47
CO: $98.10
BTN: $225.55

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO calls $2.00, BTN folds, Hero calls $1.00, BB checks

Flop: ($6) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $5.00</font>, BB calls $5.00, <font color="red">CO raises to $10.00</font>, Hero calls $5.00, BB calls $5.00

Turn: ($36) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $15.00</font>, CO calls $15.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $100.00</font>, BB calls $85.00, CO folds

River: ($251) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ???

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3bet flop next time.
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Old 06-23-2007, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: Nut straight 200bbs deep, river pairs board :(

ok a5 if you rr the turn this big, there is no possible way you can fold this river so c/c. villain is obv a donk to call this because its either rraise or fold if you are decent. maybe fold if he bets really close to pot after you check.

next time calm your ass down on the turn plz, maybe 60 or something.
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Old 06-24-2007, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: Nut straight 200bbs deep, river pairs board :(

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ok a5 if you rr the turn this big, there is no possible way you can fold this river so c/c. villain is obv a donk to call this because its either rraise or fold if you are decent. maybe fold if he bets really close to pot after you check.

next time calm your ass down on the turn plz, maybe 60 or something.

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None of your logic makes any sense. First of all, check/calling the river is borderline horrible. His range is like 100% made hands and he will check behind anything worse and value bet boats etc.

And wtf, I'm raising the turn as much as I think I can get called for. I was pretty sure he was very strong on the turn when he lead (aka hit two pair or better) and I thought he would pay off a big raise, which he did. Why the hell would I opt to make a smaller raise if he is going to call a much bigger one about as often?
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Old 06-24-2007, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: Nut straight 200bbs deep, river pairs board :(

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Villain is 40/20 ish. Clear bet right, but how much? Also, is this a bet/fold or a bet/call if we get raised? I'm pretty sure I hate this river card since a decent amount of his range filled up, meh. Opinions?

Party Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $385.20
BB: $426.41
UTG: $213.47
CO: $98.10
BTN: $225.55

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO calls $2.00, BTN folds, Hero calls $1.00, BB checks

Flop: ($6) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $5.00</font>, BB calls $5.00, <font color="red">CO raises to $10.00</font>, Hero calls $5.00, BB calls $5.00

Turn: ($36) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $15.00</font>, CO calls $15.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $100.00</font>, BB calls $85.00, CO folds

River: ($251) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ???

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3bet flop next time.

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I see no reason to 3bet the flop.
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Old 06-24-2007, 01:05 AM
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Default Re: Nut straight 200bbs deep, river pairs board :(

ugh this river is a crappy spot. I guess bet/call is the only thing i can come up with, but AF stats on BB would help a bit. I mean if his AF is like &gt;2 im a bit worried in this spot, if its reasonably high i'm playing this hand like i have the nuts and betting whatever i think he will call. (prolly 2/3 pot)

If his AF is low and he can have a set or 2 pair and just filled up often enough i'm pretty inclined to pay off here, but how do people feel about blocking and b/f if the guy is passive?
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Old 06-24-2007, 01:07 AM
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Default Re: Nut straight 200bbs deep, river pairs board :(

Flop and turn are fine, I probably make it like $85 on the turn but w/e.

River is tough, if he's bad, I'd bet/call, if not I'd consider bet/folding. I do think the river is a bet though for sure.
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Old 06-24-2007, 01:11 AM
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Default Re: Nut straight 200bbs deep, river pairs board :(

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3bet flop next time.

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I see no reason to 3bet the flop.

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Old 06-24-2007, 01:13 AM
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Default Re: Nut straight 200bbs deep, river pairs board :(

I check river and pwn his bluff
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Old 06-24-2007, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: Nut straight 200bbs deep, river pairs board :(

Okay, misread action. I thought CO bet turn too. That is just weird that BB donked teh turn. Most likely he has a J, so I would bet it. But rest of the time he has a missed draw, so I don't hate a check
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