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Old 07-07-2007, 08:57 PM
myke11 myke11 is offline
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Default 200nl QQ 2+ buyins deep

CO is 20/17 over 53 hands... no histgroy really. He was on like 3 of my tables just now. This is our first significant confrontation.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $190.00
BB: $237.30
UTG: $200.00
MP: $102.20
CO: $442.80
Hero (BTN): $496.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $8.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $26.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $68.00</font>, Hero calls $42.00

Flop: ($139) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $92.00</font>, Hero calls $92.00

Turn: ($323) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($323) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets all-in for $282.80</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $605.80 ($3 Rake)

Is folding pf here the right move? I mean, there are no flops that im excited about except Qxx. Is my flop call bad? If it is then pf must be bad too right? lol help.
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:07 PM
b0bb4n b0bb4n is offline
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Default Re: 200nl QQ 2+ buyins deep

I think his 4bet range pre is very tight, like KK/AA maybe sometimes AK. And you dont really have odds to call for a set, so i think its a fold pre.
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:12 PM
tarheeljks tarheeljks is offline
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Default Re: 200nl QQ 2+ buyins deep

we are deep so i'm not sure whether i fold pf. definitely fold the flop though.
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:16 PM
Fonkey123 Fonkey123 is offline
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Default Re: 200nl QQ 2+ buyins deep

Was this me?
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: 200nl QQ 2+ buyins deep

fold pf is good.
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:35 PM
Unknown Soldier Unknown Soldier is offline
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Default Re: 200nl QQ 2+ buyins deep

i agree, i think villains 4b range is AK QQ+
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:35 PM
13_Xerxes 13_Xerxes is offline
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Default Re: 200nl QQ 2+ buyins deep

I cannot see him bet 3/4 of the pot with AK, when you call his 4 bets preflop.

Fold PF/fold flop/another thing
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Old 07-07-2007, 10:26 PM
R6MC R6MC is offline
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Default Re: 200nl QQ 2+ buyins deep

I posted about the 4 BET w/ QQ issue not long ago. Against an opponent with these stats you are up against 2-3 different hands= AA,KK (most likely) AKo,AKs (possible but villian dependant)- or I guess maybe QQ (least likely obviously). Unless you have a feel for the specific timing/ situation or a read on Villian, IMO you best to fold QQ to a 4 BET.
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Old 07-07-2007, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: 200nl QQ 2+ buyins deep

I think this looks fine, although I'd be receptive to arguments on folding preflop.

postflop, everything looks good
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