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Old 11-18-2007, 04:07 AM
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Default QQ,ace on flop, shoveing over his raise...this ok?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($917.60)
Hero ($445)
CO ($527.80)
Button ($394)
SB ($439)
BB ($189.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q, Q.
]1 fold</font>, ]Hero raises to $14</font>, CO calls $14, [color=#666666]3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($34) 8, 6, A (2 players)</font>
Hero bets $24</font>, CO raises to $80, Hero goes all in for 160 more


villian is 25/20, mutlitabling

i rasie utg, he calls in hiajack...hes never calling here with ax right? so its either a set or fd?
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:13 AM
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Default Re: QQ,ace on flop, shoveing over his raise...this ok?

assuming he doesn't raise here with air regularly, his range has you crushed
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:17 AM
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Default Re: QQ,ace on flop, shoveing over his raise...this ok?

and this hand has me completely confused
if effective stack is $445 how is it that your flop push is for $240 total

or am i reading the hh wrong?
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:19 AM
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Default Re: QQ,ace on flop, shoveing over his raise...this ok?

he couldn't have like AdJd?
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:19 AM
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Default Re: QQ,ace on flop, shoveing over his raise...this ok?

hmm no idea, the converting got messed up and i jsut wrote that in cause its what i saw, maybe i saw wrong.... but whats his range here???? what aces are in his range. i dont think multitabling lags cold call utg raises with Ax in hijack....
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:21 AM
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Default Re: QQ,ace on flop, shoveing over his raise...this ok?

he has pos on you, it's not a terrible spot to be playing Ax suited, and AJ-AK are definitely in his range.
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:23 AM
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Default Re: QQ,ace on flop, shoveing over his raise...this ok?

are u guys serious? you really call an utg raiser in utg+1 with aq,aj axs...?
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:27 AM
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Default Re: QQ,ace on flop, shoveing over his raise...this ok?

i can't really answer that question without knowing a bunch of variables that you haven't given. point is it isn't entirely unreasonable
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:48 AM
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Default Re: QQ,ace on flop, shoveing over his raise...this ok?

With position, i would think he is more likely to float you than raise with his draws. i think your line is way too aggressive toward a narrow part of his range that even if he has, you are like 60/40 to beat. This is a bad spot tho, im not sure how id play the flop. I think if you get it all in like this tho it will end up with negative EV against his range.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:15 AM
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Gross
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