Very interesting 100-200 hand. Need all the help i can get!

[Nezzar]

Im writing an article for pokemagazine (swedish magazine) and im analysing a very, imo, intereting hand. Im almost done with the article. But i dont wanna turn in something and find out afterwards that i have missed somthing in my thought process. i was hoping you guys could help me out here.

6-max game. Folded to Zupp on button who raises to 800. Timex calls with 7-7 from SB and BB folds.

Flop(1800) 8-8-8.

Timex check, Zupp folds, Timex calls 1300.

Turn(4400) 5.

Timex chk calls a 4000 bet.

River(12400) A.

Bord is 8-8-8-5-A. Timex checks, Zupp goes all-in for 13700 and timex after along time calls with 7-7. I think that river has many levels of thinking... Is this a bad or good call?

Timex hand is face-up to Zupp, who is a very good thinking highstakes player. Timex, from what ive seen, is also a very good thinking player.

If u want to know results right away ill post them...

[whiffer1983]

results

[Nezzar]

edited

[g-p]

"Timex check, Zupp folds, Timex calls 1300."

i guess he bet 1300? and wtf dont post results yet just because some lurker wanted to see them

[Nezzar]

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"Timex check, Zupp folds, Timex calls 1300."

i guess he bet 1300? and wtf dont post results yet just because some lurker wanted to see them

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yes he bet 1300. damn! Also i think it is a very good call by timex. he derserves alot of credit for making it imo.

[Terkman]

u messed this up. Timex check called flop and turn and timed on the river bet of all in slightly overbet on the A river.

[Nezzar]

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u messed this up. Timex check called flop and turn and timed on the river bet of all in slightly overbet on the A river.

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Zupp bets turn. not folds turn ofc. Did i mess anything else up? I wrote "folds" instead of "bets" on one place in the post. Only that right?

[mustmuck]

I think this kind depends of depends on how the game was playing. You'd expect Zupp to try and bluff this river a very large % of the time. Other than that we have the overbet rather than something that looks more like a value bet. While it IS interesting I think it depends a lot on what level they're playing on, and this is something that they're much more likely to know than anybody else. Obviously 90% timex's range "can't" call this bet, but to turn that into a should call/can't call depends on what level Zupp is thinking on.

[mustmuck]

Also, I'd assume that Zupp will value bet TT+ on the river. I'd be interested in how often he'd fire the turn w/A high or total air as it really looks like he'll have to fire on the river to take it down.

[PartyGirlUK]

This seems like a perfect spot where game theory is applicable.