NL25: Flopped Trips, does the money go ALL IN?

hallo! · #1 10-12-2007, 11:09 AM

I was not so sure about what to do in these two hands: Villains were fairly fishy though (50/30/3)

HAND 1

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB ($28.35)
BB ($23.80)
UTG ($25.05)
Hero ($43.65)
Button ($52.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $1, Button calls $1, 2 folds.

Flop: ($2.35) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $1.5, Button raises to $3, Hero raises to $6, Button raises to $12, Hero calls $3.

Turn: ($23.35) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $3, Hero calls $3.

River: ($29.35) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $10, Button raises to $39.3 (All-In), Hero calls $20.65 (All-In).

Final Pot: $99.30

HAND 2

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MP ($40.75)
Button ($12.20)
SB ($25.30)
BB ($43.25)
Hero ($33.80)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $0.75, MP calls $0.75, 2 folds, BB calls $0.50.

Flop: ($2.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1, MP raises to $3, BB calls $3, Hero raises to $8, MP folds, BB calls $5.

Turn: ($21.35) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $34.5 (All-In), Hero calls $25.05 (All-In).

River: ($80.90) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)
.

Final Pot: $80.90

Hint: They both had the same hand

castigar · #2 10-12-2007, 11:14 AM

Hand 1: Gay raises...raise more and I shove his 3bet on the flop. He could do that with any J with these stats.

Hand 2: Again, you should read about raise sizing. Your call on the turn is fine.

Neku · #3 10-12-2007, 11:16 AM

The "TJ is da nutz" theorem?

"If TJ is in any way the nuts, someone has TJ. Moreover, if any player could have TJ, he has TJ."

it's either that or a pair of sixes for the full house

hallo! · #4 10-12-2007, 11:24 AM

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Hand 1: Gay raises...raise more and I shove his 3bet on the flop. He could do that with any J with these stats.

Hand 2: Again, you should read about raise sizing. Your call on the turn is fine.

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good you bring that up i have big problems with bet sizes

for Hand 1:

would 2.10 on the flop do it? and the reraise, you saw that we both have about 200 BB right? Should I reraise to about 9 or 12 (3 or 4 times his raise) and then shove?

Hand 2:

Also bet about 2 on the flop?

rNx · #5 10-12-2007, 11:26 AM

a. Yes the money goes in
b. I think you played these bad. Read some posts on size of raises here.

castigar · #6 10-12-2007, 11:30 AM

Your bets are too small too, but I was talking about your raises. Don't min raise. A good raise should be around pot size + his bet size (or raise size).

So let's say the pot 10$ and he bets 7. The pot is now 17, you should raise around 23. If he bets "normally" (66%/100% of pot), then 3x or 4x his bet is a good raise.

Berky · #7 10-12-2007, 11:34 AM

Just stick it in on both flops.
Bet flop on 2.

Adjust raise sizing.

bsball8806 · #8 10-12-2007, 11:43 AM

i'm fine getting all my money in on the first hand on the flop

2nd hand: the check/double flat call really scares me. Usually, I'd assume he had a monster like JJ, but since you have a J, and its doubtful he has J5, i suppose we put him on a hand like AJ. I really don't see what hands we beat here, but against a donk I suppose its a call...?

p.s: just because they both had AJ doesn't make it a bad decision.

hallo! · #9 10-12-2007, 12:23 PM

ok thx so far

they both had J8