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#1
10-08-2007, 05:51 AM
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Playing against a LAG with weak two pair on a paired board
Do you play this hand the same way against a 40/19/1.3 over 54 hands?
PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, Hero calls. Flop: (6 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls. Turn: (5 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls. River: (7 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls. Final Pot: 9 BB 
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#3
10-08-2007, 06:17 AM
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Re: Playing against a LAG with weak two pair on a paired board
Flop: Your checkraise on the flop is to make villain fold incorrectly, right? So what has he got when he doesn't fold? Well we are in little trouble here..
If I knew villain would call with anything(overcards) then I would just call the flop and betfold the turn. In that way we actually let him believe that we have the trips by greater chance and we have lowered his potodds on the flop. He actually has to have some kind of hand to call us and maybe he'll fold a better one to our bet. I just think the flopline with checkraise reveals that we have a marginal hand and if he has the T he could be the one trapping us(of course this is the standardthinking - if you have any history this could be quite different).
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#4
10-10-2007, 03:08 AM
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Re: Playing against a LAG with weak two pair on a paired board
end this post....so much over analysis it making me stupid by the moment. the board is paired over either one of your other pairs. either you are way ahead or way behind. simple straightforward against an aggressive player is obviously the best. just let him bluff away and take the value it brings
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#6
10-10-2007, 04:59 AM
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Re: Playing against a LAG with weak two pair on a paired board
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[ QUOTE ] either you are way ahead or way behind [/ QUOTE ] No you are not. When ahead he has a [censored] of outs [/ QUOTE ] Is the WA/WB concept the most misunderstood concept ever? You are never way ahead on the flop with a pair of fours! Stop using the freaking WA/WB whenever you don't have a clue what to do. Be honest instead and say "I have no idea what to do so I just call down and hope for the best". The WA/WB situation is where you have a strong hand with few outs, and your opponent probably also have a strong hand with few outs and is either sligtly better or slightly worse than yours. BTW I think this has been a very good thread! Nice work Timo, Sweetjazz, Oink and everyone else.
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#7
10-08-2007, 07:09 AM
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Re: Playing against a LAG with weak two pair on a paired board
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I just call down hoping he bets air on turn and river. [/ QUOTE ] how is that line ever better than c/r'ing the flop and betting the turn? maybe if he has like specifically K3s. This is a pretty standard hand.
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#8
10-08-2007, 07:16 AM
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Re: Playing against a LAG with weak two pair on a paired board
I like the way you played it. You get a good number of ace high calldowns here and villain never has a ten. Even if he had a PP 88> this time the way you played it is still correct.
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#9
10-08-2007, 07:20 AM
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Re: Playing against a LAG with weak two pair on a paired board
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[ QUOTE ] I just call down hoping he bets air on turn and river. [/ QUOTE ] how is that line ever better than c/r'ing the flop and betting the turn? maybe if he has like specifically K3s. This is a pretty standard hand. [/ QUOTE ] Because he might fold hands that we beat that he would have bet if we don't raise flop.
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#10
10-08-2007, 07:30 AM
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Re: Playing against a LAG with weak two pair on a paired board
I can't really see from his stats that he is agressive. But against a very agressive villian it might be more value in just calling down, letting him bet his worse hands for you.
That being said, I like the way you played it. You have an extremely vulnerable hand that requires the c/r bet line IMO.
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