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Re: If Ungar were still alive, how would he be doing?
He was one of the best card counter. So I wonder if he would have lose a bit of an edge with recent automatic shuffling machine and online play. (and I am talking about poker!, not only blackjack).
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Re: If Ungar were still alive, how would he be doing?
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He was one of the best card counter. So I wonder if he would have lose a bit of an edge with recent automatic shuffling machine and online play. (and I am talking about poker!, not only blackjack). [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] |
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Re: If Ungar were still alive, how would he be doing?
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He was one of the best card counter. So I wonder if he would have lose a bit of an edge with recent automatic shuffling machine and online play. (and I am talking about poker!, not only blackjack). [/ QUOTE ] I can confirm that even the simple KO count is extremely effective in a hand-shuffled holdem game. I have made literally hundreds of dollars using it. |
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Re: If Ungar were still alive, how would he be doing?
Well, he'd probably be tired and sore from clawing at the top of his coffin, trying to get out...
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Re: If Ungar were still alive, how would he be doing?
If he were still alive and sober, I'd say he'd be the winningest tournament player ever (by far), and that he'd be a winner in the biggest games, especially the HU and SH games.
People need to remember he (i think this was confirmed) had an IQ that was genius, and not genius like a *legit* 140, but probably more like 180. Like he said, the only one who ever beat him was himself. If Stu Ungar had the self discipline to not do drugs and bet sports, and otherwise keep himself healthy, I would bet he would have made over $100 million by now. In Nolan Dalla's book it says that it has been estimated he won over $30 million playing cards, and you have to remember that was before the poker boom when the poker economy was like, what, maybe 10% as big as it is today in the 90's, and maybe 5% the size it is today back in the late 70's and 80's. You should seriously look him up on Hendon Mob, his stats are so [censored] sick, even if you consider the smaller fields of back then. If you ever want to know just how good Stu Ungar was at NLHE tournaments, just ask Billy Baxter next time you're in the Bellagio sports book, lol. -Tex |
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Re: If Ungar were still alive, how would he be doing?
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Like he said, the only one who ever beat him was himself. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: If Ungar were still alive, how would he be doing?
Isn't that burden of the super-genius though? Life is not challenging enough so too often they succumb to things that actually do make life more challenging.
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Re: If Ungar were still alive, how would he be doing?
It wouldn't matter how he's doing, he'd be so rich from the many endorsement deals.
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Re: If Ungar were still alive, how would he be doing?
I don't know how well he'd do in a cash game against aggro online "meglomaniacs", as Phil Hellmuth call them. But he'd own live donkaments as his style involve a lot of bullying weak players. But once people start to play back at him, esp. shove on him preflop, his edge will be reduced to minimum.
If he was at last year's wsop final table, do you think he could break Jerry Yang w/o getting good hands quick, as Yang was going nuts overbetting/shoving every hand? |
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Re: If Ungar were still alive, how would he be doing?
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He'd do pretty good in live games and tournaments, but the internet pros in NVG would think he was terrible. [/ QUOTE ] QFT. (lol) |
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