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11-29-2007, 03:56 PM
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Re: donkbet why?
He had an overpair and gutshot, he loved his 4 extra outs. But you're right, how can he think he's ahead when you 3-bet PF and raise him on the flop?
I play middle pairs much more cautiosly after being 3-bet PF, and would probaby c/f most flops. If I bet out and got raised, then I'd also have to fold, obv. 
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#2
11-29-2007, 04:01 PM
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Re: donkbet why?
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I play middle pairs much more cautiosly after being 3-bet PF, and would probaby c/f most flops. [/ QUOTE ] please dont tell me you are only calling for set value? I think it is not profitable to call 3-bets with pp with 100bb stacks only for set value. Have to gamble sometimes.
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#4
11-29-2007, 04:15 PM
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Re: donkbet why?
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[ QUOTE ] I play middle pairs much more cautiosly after being 3-bet PF, and would probaby c/f most flops. [/ QUOTE ] please dont tell me you are only calling for set value? I think it is not profitable to call 3-bets with pp with 100bb stacks only for set value. Have to gamble sometimes. [/ QUOTE ] Ya, I set mine way too much. This a big leak in my game and I need to learn to play medium and small pocket pairs better. Would c/ring be a good line here sometimes?
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#5
11-29-2007, 06:16 PM
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Re: donkbet why?
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He had an overpair and gutshot, he loved his 4 extra outs. But you're right, how can he think he's ahead when you 3-bet PF and raise him on the flop? I play middle pairs much more cautiosly after being 3-bet PF, and would probaby c/f most flops. If I bet out and got raised, then I'd also have to fold, obv. [/ QUOTE ] i would stack off against me with TT in that spot everytime, but the point is why donk when i will probably Cbet and then he can raise.
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11-29-2007, 06:24 PM
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Re: donkbet why?
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i would stack off against me with TT in that spot everytime, but the point is why donk when i will probably Cbet and then he can raise. [/ QUOTE ] Really? Seems like even against a light 3 bettor, you're only ever going to be SA/WB when you get action.
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#7
11-29-2007, 06:28 PM
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Re: donkbet why?
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[ QUOTE ] i would stack off against me with TT in that spot everytime, but the point is why donk when i will probably Cbet and then he can raise. [/ QUOTE ] Really? Seems like even against a light 3 bettor, you're only ever going to be SA/WB when you get action. [/ QUOTE ] we has a gutshot
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#8
11-29-2007, 06:30 PM
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Re: donkbet why?
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[ QUOTE ] i would stack off against me with TT in that spot everytime, but the point is why donk when i will probably Cbet and then he can raise. [/ QUOTE ] Really? Seems like even against a light 3 bettor, you're only ever going to be SA/WB when you get action. [/ QUOTE ] you dont need "action" when they cbet/fold to a c/r like 60% of the time. and we has an outs
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#9
11-29-2007, 06:31 PM
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Re: donkbet why?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] i would stack off against me with TT in that spot everytime, but the point is why donk when i will probably Cbet and then he can raise. [/ QUOTE ] Really? Seems like even against a light 3 bettor, you're only ever going to be SA/WB when you get action. [/ QUOTE ] you dont need "action" when they cbet/fold to a c/r like 60% of the time. and we has an outs [/ QUOTE ] He's not talking about anybody folding though, he's talking about stacking off on this flop with TT.
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#10
11-29-2007, 06:36 PM
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Re: donkbet why?
there isn;t much else to do with TT here. we are OOP, i hate c/c, then ending with a tricky decision if a JQK or A hit, or convincing ourselves to fold to a blank when he keeps betting.
we can't c/f the flop with an overpair, so c/r is the only move. we are only a 3/1 dog if he has JJ, QQ, KK or AA anyway, and we are a favorite over 99 when i am OOP in 3bet pots w/o the betting lead i am pretty much always c/f or c/r
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