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Old 10-16-2007, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: 400: What do you call me with here?

im calling u with aces or better for sure. Mby QQ or KK but those hands I might fold.
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: 400: What do you call me with here?

QQ+, Jx, boat, maybe TT.

Youve got PP alot imo, i dunno FR ranges though im 6max only. Never played you, hell i dunno who you are [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: 400: What do you call me with here?

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I only call you with a boat KJ and AJ.

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you arent folding any J here, although my calling range is close to yours. However our input is flawed b/c the range of hands betting the turn for value influences the calling range very very heavily.

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just noticed pf, the only way i would open-complete/RR here is if i was actually dealt [X] [X] so i guess i change my answer to that. i will say if i bet KK/AA for value on the flop and turn im not doing it to fold to this turn shove
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: 400: What do you call me with here?

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I only call you with a boat KJ and AJ.

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you arent folding any J here, although my calling range is close to yours. However our input is flawed b/c the range of hands betting the turn for value influences the calling range very very heavily.

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just noticed pf, the only way i would open-complete/RR here is if i was actually dealt [X] [X] so i guess i change my answer to that. i will say if i bet KK/AA for value on the flop and turn im not doing it to fold to this turn shove

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Its PL so he might have a big hand since he can only open to 3x oop.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: 400: What do you call me with here?

If i am gonna call here its gonna be pretty light cuz this is one of the hands where he either has draw or monster (i doubt total air but i guess its not totally out of the question) but melon not shoving a marginal hand like big pair or mid jacks.

To me it looks like a combo draw that u hit on the turn (like T9 of spade or QT of spades) or a total monster like 8s full or Jx even quads here i could see him showing down. With that being said I dont think the villain calls here with much so i like melons shove with a wide range (i definitly think he lays down KK or AA, whether he should verse an aggressive villain is another question intirely)
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: 400: What do you call me with here?

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im calling u with aces or better for sure. Mby QQ or KK but those hands I might fold.

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not trying to call you out raised2win, but how does it make sense call here with AA but not KK or QQ here? given the board texture how could AA be good but KK or QQ be bad here?
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: 400: What do you call me with here?

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im calling u with aces or better for sure. Mby QQ or KK but those hands I might fold.

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not trying to call you out raised2win, but how does it make sense call here with AA but not KK or QQ here? given the board texture how could AA be good but KK or QQ be bad here?

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GM could possibly have AA or KK
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:39 PM
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im calling u with aces or better for sure. Mby QQ or KK but those hands I might fold.

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not trying to call you out raised2win, but how does it make sense call here with AA but not KK or QQ here? given the board texture how could AA be good but KK or QQ be bad here?

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GM could possibly have AA or KK

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Agreed.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: 400: What do you call me with here?

I have no idea what my pf range would be in this spot, but even still, I can't really imagine what I would bet/fold with on this dry board with this strange action in this big pot.
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