4/180- How do you respond to this?

[footnbaseball]

4th or 5th hand of the tourney, so no real reads, but MP1 has already indicated he's not very good.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1240)
UTG+1 (t1490)
MP1 (t2540)
MP2 (t1540)
MP3 (t860)
CO (t1390)
Button (t1460)
SB (t1480)
Hero (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls t20, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, MP1 calls t20, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, CO calls t20, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t10, <font color="red">Hero raises to t140</font>, <font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to t260</font>, CO calls t240, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>

[AceLuby]

OOP the rest of the hand, 4/180, I push, hope for a favorable flip (you could EASILY be dominating) and get that early double up.

[APipeDream]

You're up against As or Ks if you ask me. Easy to just call or fold - I personally wouldn't push here.

[AceLuby]

Calling is bad IMO, you miss 2/3 of the flops MP1 has a wider range than AA or KK to call/minraise line. If you think he has AA or KK, fold, otherwise 3-bet this (possibly AI).

[BlueEcho]

This screams of AA or KK to me, I see this kind of play alot in the 4/180's.

When you say he is not a very good player are you suggesting that it might be something else he is holding? This player probably had it done to him so now he thinks it's a great way to play AA.

[footnbaseball]

When I say he's not a good player I mean he won his chips by hitting a gutshot in one hand and pushing 2000+ chips into a 100 chip pot in another.

[Brakara]

I've seen the same play with AJ+ and QQ, not only kings and aces. I would say the worse the player is, the larger his hand range is. Although the min-raise is suspicious.

Calling 120 into a pot of 680 can't be too bad (then evaluate the flop)?

[Sherman]

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I've seen the same play with AJ+ and QQ-66 , not only kings and aces. I would say the worse the player is, the larger his hand range is. Although the min-raise is suspicious.

Calling 120 into a pot of 680 can't be too bad (then evaluate the flop)?

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[APipeDream]

Agree to disagree I guess. I personally think these ones are easy to fight after the flop in the $4 tourney. I don't think it's necessary to do this so early in a tourney when it is not so difficult to recover. Plus, if you put them on the same hand, many players will fold when you push in on a flop of bricks anyway, and you'll steal what would have been a chopped pot.

[Imrahil]

What's a sustainable ROI in these 4/180's?