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09-24-2007, 09:15 PM
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Big strike at GM
CNN
73,000 UAW workers walked off the job at GM plants nationwide. They are arguing over wage, health care and outsourcing concerns. I liked seeing that unions are alive and well in this country. IMO, the single thing that government can do to improve quality of life the most is to strengthen unions. I think it also proves that unions are not necessarily a competitive disadvantage: the dispute is over how much to cut from the old contract instead of what new goodies the unions are getting. 
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09-24-2007, 09:57 PM
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Re: Big strike at GM
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CNN 73,000 UAW workers walked off the job at GM plants nationwide. They are arguing over wage, health care and outsourcing concerns. I liked seeing that unions are alive and well in this country. IMO, the single thing that government can do to improve quality of life the most is to strengthen unions. [/ QUOTE ] And here I was thinking that the single thing government could do to improve quality of life the most would be to eliminate most of the taxes that are out there ;-) That wouldn't even be regressive; gas taxes and sales taxes and so forth kill poor people. But back to the subject at hand: [ QUOTE ] I think it also proves that unions are not necessarily a competitive disadvantage: the dispute is over how much to cut from the old contract instead of what new goodies the unions are getting. [/ QUOTE ] If they haven't already sunk GM with their accumulated demands over decades maybe there is hope yet. They'll probably have to do a lot of cutting to regain true competitiveness with companies like Toyota and Honda.
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09-24-2007, 10:10 PM
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Re: Big strike at GM
Iron, as someone from Michigan, who has their entire family working in the auto industry, I'll tell you that no single group has done more damage the Michigan economy other than the Union.
The union's had their time and place, but they are now holding back all of the major auto companies. Their constant resistance to modernization, streamlining and keeping costs down add about 2k per vehicle compared to imports and contributes to a lot of quality problems in manufacturing. If Unions were truly needed and necessary to Michigan, you wouldn't be forced to join one to work at pretty much every plant. Compare "Right to work" states versus states where you can be mandated to work as part of a union to work in a plant. The "right to work" states are doing much, much better.
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09-24-2007, 11:10 PM
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If you approve of unions, you have no idea how they actually operate, and how detrimental they are to business. Imagine the govt, but about 1000 times more corrupt. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. I'm of the opinion that unions have long outlived their usefullness. Cody
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09-24-2007, 10:53 PM
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Iron, as someone from Michigan, who has their entire family working in the auto industry [/ QUOTE ] I call BS. WHERE in the auto industry do they work? I'm guessing management, or some other non-union position.
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09-24-2007, 11:01 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Iron, as someone from Michigan, who has their entire family working in the auto industry [/ QUOTE ] I call BS. WHERE in the auto industry do they work? I'm guessing management, or some other non-union position. [/ QUOTE ] I was thinking of getting a GM car last year, I'm glad I bought Japanese. Can't wait til these bums are on the street.
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09-24-2007, 11:52 PM
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Re: Big strike at GM
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[ QUOTE ] Iron, as someone from Michigan, who has their entire family working in the auto industry [/ QUOTE ] I call BS. WHERE in the auto industry do they work? I'm guessing management, or some other non-union position. [/ QUOTE ] lol Snowball... -Dad, Grandpa Engineer (non-union, but not management) -2 uncles, auto parts plant (union) -Mom, Healthcare Management, basically all her work is for the Big 3, directly or indirectly (self-employed) -Not to mention everyone on my mom's side of the family who worked in [censored] ass union factories in Muskegon Not to mention pretty much any business you are running in Michigan requires the auto industry to do well, for pretty obvious reasons. It isn't, so we are 49th (I believe) in economic productivity in the nation. Also, cuts in management and engineering have already happened, and it sucked. Basically my dads dept was cut in half, he's lucky to still have his job. Snowball, look at right to work states vs states w/ mandatory union factories. See which economies and workers are doing better.
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