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Old 11-06-2007, 03:57 AM
losingdonkey losingdonkey is offline
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Default combo draw, call down?

Any value in raising here? Is calling down going to get paid off often enough?
villain is unknown

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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to 1.8</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($2.9, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $1.65</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.20, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $3</font>
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:12 AM
Schiester Schiester is offline
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Default Re: combo draw, call down?

This is a really difficult hand. I think I fold flop as I don't know if the FD is good all the time here given bet size. W/O reads, I would say this most looks like either a massive overpair trying to look weak and 3betAI on the flop or a flush draw that is almost certainly better than yours.

I think the turn is a fold.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:15 AM
anthb7210p anthb7210p is offline
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Default Re: combo draw, call down?

Well, the board is paired so you don't even know if your outs are good. I probably just fold turn since your FD isnt' to the nuts. Stack sizes would be helpful though.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:53 AM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default Re: combo draw, call down?

Oh comeon...his outs are good here like 97% of the time.


I see very very little to no value in a raise though. Villian likely does have an overpair.


Call the turn.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:05 AM
IAGTTAYM IAGTTAYM is offline
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Default Re: combo draw, call down?

Stack sizes?
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:59 AM
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Default Re: combo draw, call down?

lets see villain 3bet you preflop and it's micro so we can narrow his range on this flop to OP's and maybe AK.

There is no way that flop hit him - and he's still betting.
See also the turn. After the turn bet we can put him on an overpair or a very rare bluff and not much else.

We gots 9 flush outs and 3 extra gs outs. And 50% of the time he has a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in his hand so lets make that 12.5 outs.

2/4 times rule says that on the turn with one card to hit we have two times # outs = % chance of winning.

So we are ~25% which is ~3/1.

If we flat call the $3 the pot is paying a little over 3/1 so assuming we have $3+ in our stack call and see the river. We can fold everytime our draw misses and push everytime it hits and villain has bet so little it's +EV.

If we have less than $3 remaining here it's a simple fold as we don't get enough odds to call.

Please post stack sizes in your posted hands as they are important.
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: combo draw, call down?

sorry, cant find a prima hand converter, had to make this manually
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