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Old 11-28-2007, 02:42 PM
James282 James282 is offline
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Default Re: Man kills 2 People While 911 Is Telling Him Not To

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Valuing consumer electronics over people's lives is exactly the sort of thing we need to be locking people up for.

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I disagree here.

I hate to be racist or value one person over another, but these 2 burglars arent exactly model citizens. They are a leech on society, and they are certainly going to rob someone else. Who knows if they are armed, and if they will harm someone else while robbing them?

I really can't blame someone for killing 2 thieves.

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What if the neighbor that he barely knew had wronged them criminally first? What if the guy actually knew these two guys, and was giving them his old vcr? What if these guys were delivery guys from circuit city who were coming to pick up a defective item?

There are reasons why we have laws against people taking the law into their own hands.

Also, if your 12 year old son stole a Playboy from a convenience store, and some other customer saw him and shot him, would you feel similarly that the death penatly was appropriate?

Just let the law sort it out, and down with [censored] idiots sentencing people to death for B&E on someone else's house.

James
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:13 AM
gimmetheloot gimmetheloot is offline
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Default Re: Man kills 2 People While 911 Is Telling Him Not To

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Valuing consumer electronics over people's lives is exactly the sort of thing we need to be locking people up for.

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I disagree here.

I hate to be racist or value one person over another, but these 2 burglars arent exactly model citizens. They are a leech on society, and they are certainly going to rob someone else. Who knows if they are armed, and if they will harm someone else while robbing them?

I really can't blame someone for killing 2 thieves.

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What if the neighbor that he barely knew had wronged them criminally first? What if the guy actually knew these two guys, and was giving them his old vcr? What if these guys were delivery guys from circuit city who were coming to pick up a defective item?

There are reasons why we have laws against people taking the law into their own hands.

Also, if your 12 year old son stole a Playboy from a convenience store, and some other customer saw him and shot him, would you feel similarly that the death penatly was appropriate?

Just let the law sort it out, and down with [censored] idiots sentencing people to death for B&E on someone else's house.

James

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Im *pretty* sure youre just being facetious, but either way, this is the dumbest [censored] ive read in years.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:27 PM
bmwguy525 bmwguy525 is offline
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Default Re: Man kills 2 People While 911 Is Telling Him Not To

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What if the neighbor that he barely knew had wronged them criminally first? What if the guy actually knew these two guys, and was giving them his old vcr? What if these guys were delivery guys from circuit city who were coming to pick up a defective item?

There are reasons why we have laws against people taking the law into their own hands.

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If you are honestly using this as an argument, you are a complete idiot.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:34 PM
Ship Ship McGipp Ship Ship McGipp is offline
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Default Re: Man kills 2 People While 911 Is Telling Him Not To

man this thread is long. i'm in clss so i havent been able to watch the tape, but i will say this: i can definitely see myself going irate at times where it is unnecessary. guy starts hitting my sister (i dno't have one- just for an example) and i go nuts and beat him until he's dead.

what i'm saying is, i can see myself actually hurting a person very badly, possibly killing them, for them doing something of much lesser value, relatively speaking. what i'm trying to get at is empathy, i guess.

i really don' tknow about someone else's property though, that is what kind of bugs me.

i'm reallllllly on the fence about it based on what i've read so far, i can't see how you can possibly be on one side so distinctly- i feel like anyone who thinks this guy needs to be locked up should at least have a modicum of respect for his intent of justice, even if it was misplaced. conversely, i feel like anyone who thinks this guy should walk should realize that he went a little too far and should incurr some sort of punishment.

so basically what i'm saying is, i can draw no conclusions at all, but i look forward to listening to the news report, and i've just wasted all of your time with this post.
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: Man kills 2 People While 911 Is Telling Him Not To

All,

I'm locking this thread now, most of the stuff for a while is just the same stuff back and forth.

Anyone who wants to start a followup thread to discuss any specific topics brought up here, feel free to do so.

I think there are a lot of topics worth discussing around this issue, I just think we need a fresh thread to discuss them as any new points are just getting lost in the flow.

Boris, MVP, James or anyone else who has strong opinions about specific elements around this case, start a new thread if you'd like to discuss further.
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