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Old 11-23-2007, 02:13 PM
sean457j sean457j is offline
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Default Re: Big draw on turn vs tag

Since you bet the flop - the villain may discount possible straights on the river, also the backdoor flush draw is well hidden. Because you will be in position on the river it is more likely that you will get some payoff if either of your draws hit. Therefore, I think, you have enough implied odds + pot odds to call the turn bet.
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Old 11-23-2007, 02:14 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: Big draw on turn vs tag

Im about 99% sure I get paid if I hit as the bdfd is so hidden like has been said. I guess it comes down to the math, but I suck at that part. Actually, this looks pretty close but it leans towards a fold.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

264 games 0.025 secs 10,560 games/sec

Board: 3s Td Qc 5c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 29.545% 29.55% 00.00% 78 0.00 { KcJc }
Hand 1: 70.455% 70.45% 00.00% 186 0.00 { TT, 33 }


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Old 11-23-2007, 02:42 PM
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If you are the lesser half of 70:30 to win the hand, then you are a 2.33:1 underdog to win on the river. At this point in the hand you need to call a bet of $13.75 (pot is $27.50) to see the river. Therefore you only need to win a minimum of $4.59 (($13.75 x 2.33) - $27.50) on the river to make this a profitable hand. Since the pot will be $41.25 on the river - it is very hard to see the villain not calling, or making a bet, well above this value.

If I have gotten the math right then I think you will show a +EV calling this bet.
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Old 11-23-2007, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: Big draw on turn vs tag

Rethink your math. Or think about the math, heh.

You are getting immediate 2:1 odds on your $14. You are a 2.3:1 dog against the worst of his range. You think you'll get paid off if you hit.

Think it over again plz.
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Old 11-23-2007, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: Big draw on turn vs tag

BTW, this is why I suck at the math. I see what youre saying, thanks guys for the help.
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