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Old 11-15-2007, 10:18 AM
tinze tinze is offline
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Default Stars 109. Idiot end straight and NFD on the turn.

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Standard right?
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:25 AM
Rupert Rupert is offline
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Default Re: Stars 109. Idiot end straight and NFD on the turn.

Shoving the turn cannot be good here. Probably check the turn then fold the river
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: Stars 109. Idiot end straight and NFD on the turn.

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Shoving the turn cannot be good here. Probably check the turn then fold the river

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What on earth do you hope to accomplish from the turn shove? You are essentially asking every straight to call and every other hand to fold.
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:47 PM
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Default Re: Stars 109. Idiot end straight and NFD on the turn.

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What on earth do you hope to accomplish from the turn shove? You are essentially asking every straight to call and every other hand to fold.

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Exactly! Villains ranges don't include many 6's, but it is somewhat likely that at least one of them have an ace. So I'm just trying to freeroll for my flush. It is also possible that villain would fold an ace and that would be a perfect result for me. If I get called, and I am beat, I have outs.

Edit: Btw. This is a standard cash game play. When you think you have a splitpot with someone, and you have outs to improve to a winner it is pretty common to overbet shove.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:23 PM
zizazziza zizazziza is offline
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Default Re: Stars 109. Idiot end straight and NFD on the turn.

if you are against 1 opponent this MAY be a shove. But against 2 opponents I dont see the point of shoving here. Someone is going to have a 6 here. and AT BEST you are hoping for a free-roll.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:59 PM
JesseB_11 JesseB_11 is offline
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Default Re: Stars 109. Idiot end straight and NFD on the turn.

Why would someone necessarily have a 6 here? Shoving the turn tho is bad because nothing you beat calls. I would check and call if someone bet and try to get to showdown as cheaply as possible if you don't hit your flush.
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: Stars 109. Idiot end straight and NFD on the turn.

Check, don't push out worse FDs. No worse hand calls, not to many outs against you.
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