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Old 10-19-2007, 04:02 PM
Felix_Nietzsche Felix_Nietzsche is offline
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Default Live Tournament Play vs Online Tournament Play

Tomorrow I will be playing in a $100,000 freeroll at my cardroom.
The relevent facts are:
*An estimated 225 players
*Pays Top 40 finishes (min about $300)
*1st Place is $40,000

Any B&M advice for playing in a live tournament vs an online tournament?
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:08 PM
Flip-Flop Flip-Flop is offline
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Default Re: Live Tournament Play vs Online Tournament Play

- Observe
- Don`t suck

Weak payout format IMO.
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:12 PM
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1)people fold to smaller bets than online
2)People suck more offline (But it is a big freeroll, which I'm guessing you need to play there a lot, so this may not apply as much)
3)No one has a clue about inflection and will be v low on chips before shoving
4)People will try to bust you to show they busted someone
5)You have to wear pants

All I can think of for now
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: Live Tournament Play vs Online Tournament Play

Disagree with #5 - a kilt is always an option
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: Live Tournament Play vs Online Tournament Play

It's equivalent to playing a $1 mtt on stars, maybe worse if this is a free roll. Play abc poker, abuse people on the bubble who won't call off their chips with 55. You can generally bluff a bit more on the flop. Punish limpers with solid hands, cause live donks will limp with K7s utg with 6bb, go ahead and raise with AT, KQ, 55+. Most of the time they'll fold and if not you're usually ahead.
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:50 PM
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Try to get a copy of the structure beforehand so you can know what kind of a tournament you're in for. Do you start off with an M of 20 and 17 minute levels, or do you start with an M of 150 and 45 minute levels (more likely the former than the latter)? The structure will dictate how fast or slow you can afford to play, and therefore will provide some guidance towards your best chance of cashing and/or winning (whichever is your priority). Obviously this advice doesn't apply to only B&M tournies, but make sure you embrace it, as many of your opponents may have no idea what the structure is like or what the implications of it are.
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Old 10-19-2007, 10:45 PM
Felix_Nietzsche Felix_Nietzsche is offline
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Default Re: Live Tournament Play vs Online Tournament Play

Thanks this sounds like good advice...of course this all depends whether I'm on a table of donks or sharks... I just hope I get some cards...
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: Live Tournament Play vs Online Tournament Play

Most difficult part will be the Pants requirement.

Seriously, my guess is that unless a lot of the guys at your casino play online, you should be able to make a decent showing. Play ABC poker, don't bluff early, profit.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Live Tournament Play vs Online Tournament Play

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Most difficult part will be the Pants requirement.

Seriously, my guess is that unless a lot of the guys at your casino play online, you should be able to make a decent showing. Play ABC poker, don't bluff early, profit.

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The biggest mistake I make with crappy players is trying to get fancy with 'em. ABC poker works best.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:35 AM
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3)No one has a clue about inflection and will be v low on chips before shoving

All I can think of for now

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This is very important for someone used to playing online tournaments. (assuming you aren't playing freerolls and $1 SnG's)

The average live tourney player is somewhere between Weak-Tight and Rock. All they want to do is make the money/final table. A great majority of them don't consider themselves short-stacked until they have less than t500 or 2-3 times the BB(whichever is higher). So when your A9 in the BB is raised by the Button with M3 - M5, you have to give it MUCH more respect than you might online. (unless of course said button-player is a complete moron)

* I can't even keep track of the number of times I've seen a live-tourney donk fold AK to an all-in bet of less than 25% of their stack, getting 4,5 or 6 to 1 on their money because "He had to have JJ or QQ and I didn't want to race."
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