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Old 11-12-2007, 07:59 PM
Daddy Warbucks Daddy Warbucks is offline
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Default I hate these spots against massive fish

Villain is 81/0/0.9 over 300 mined hands. I've never played with him, and his AF is obviously low, but he's been donking a ton of flops this session, or he'll call flop and donk any turn. I've had to surrender a ton of pots to him because he keeps putting pressure on me when i have air. Are you happy to stack off here, or whats a better line?

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (MP): $108.05
CO: $56.25
BTN: $135.35
SB: $102.43
BB: $75.94
UTG: $98.50

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $3

Flop: ($8.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $7</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $23.50</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $40</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: I hate these spots against massive fish

just call the flop, fold now
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: I hate these spots against massive fish

Read the OP, he's donking a wide wide range, and he's bad enough to have something like A8 here. I don't think this is a SA/WB situation, it could be WA/SA/WB.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: I hate these spots against massive fish

Given your description of how he's been acting this session, I think this is a good spot to look him up - which means just put him in. Calling doesn't make much sense since he only has ~$32 behind.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: I hate these spots against massive fish

i'd have to stack off here. i just refuse to give them respect.

i think in the long run you would be ahead even if you stacked off every time you had TPNK against these retards (variance would be sick though). QQ is big enough for me
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Old 11-12-2007, 11:44 PM
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Default Re: I hate these spots against massive fish

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QQ is big enough for me

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Old 11-12-2007, 11:50 PM
TJ Eckleburg12 TJ Eckleburg12 is offline
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Default Re: I hate these spots against massive fish

QQ is pretty big. But that board texture is pretty scary for QQ.

I think raise/folding the flop is better than flat-calling, because we don't have a plan for the rest of the hand and aren't sure of where we're at.

Thank this fish. He's telling you you're behind.
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Old 11-12-2007, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: I hate these spots against massive fish

flat flop, play poka
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Old 11-12-2007, 11:55 PM
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Default Re: I hate these spots against massive fish

.9 isn't a low AF with 80% vpip, but sample size is too small anyway

i shove and am pretty happy about it, like someone said A8 is also in his range here
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: I hate these spots against massive fish

As played, I think you have to fold the flop. The board is way too scary to get into it with QQ.
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