i should know what to do here

[nazahl]

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You are crazy if you think you are folding out a pair+SD or better. And you are crazy if you don't think one of them has atleast that. And you are crazy if you think jamming is +EV given the fact that you have little to no FE and are almost always behind here. Man.....you just crazy.

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who's crazy?

[spivey]

I completely agree with jlocdog.

[loosbastard]

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i'd generally call because 1. the tag could be huge here and 2. i don't want to blow the fish out of the hand.

i think call>jam>>>>>>>fold

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[jlocdog]

Nazhal,

Anyone who likes to raise. Hell, you could be crazy for all I know [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[nazahl]

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Nazhal,

Anyone who likes to raise. Hell, you could be crazy for all I know [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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lol. agreed

next question, is turn call standard here even though we're not sure what MP is up to yet?

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $146.20
Hero (SB): $235.05
BB: $448.30
UTG: $64.65
MP: $211.75
CO: $19.45

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, CO folds, BTN calls $4, Hero calls $3, BB folds

Flop: ($18) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">MP bets $12</font>, BTN calls $12, Hero calls $12, UTG folds

Turn: ($54) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $22</font>, Hero calls $22

[spivey]

I'm definitely calling the turn as played.

[loosbastard]

Not sure why he'd check turn w/ something good given board texture. I like a call.

[jlocdog]

No. Fold now. You are sandwiched. You have nothing. Your equity has considerably dropped. Reread my first post if you are entertaining thoughts of raising.

[vancouverspecial]

yeah i think you're generally up against a hand that won't be folding to your c/r.
Also, the chance either villain has a lower fd increases the value in just calling

[tubasteve]

i mean what else are you gonna do on the turn

and whoever said we might not make enough later in the hand after calling hte flop, you realize we only need to make like $10 more right