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Old 11-16-2007, 05:38 PM
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Default 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

200NL. Bodog. Effective stacks $200. Villain_1 is 16/2/1. Villain_2 is 17/3/1. Hero is 18/9/2.

Hero raises to $7 with AA UTG. Villain_1 raises to $25 from MP2. Villain calls $25 from the button. Folds to hero. Hero?
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

Easy fold.
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

Thanks. I'm looking for what you think is the most +EV move. Raise size? Slow play?
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

shove, will get called by KKs, donky villan #2 will tank use his telepathic powers or the concept of odds he has heard here and there and either figures out you both for AK or thinks he has odds and will call with his JJs donks a J on flop, gd day....
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

You really think a tight regular is calling a shove from another tight regular without AA often enough? I'm thinking slowplaying might be good here. A min-raise might also be good. Villain_2 is clearly set-mining or has AK and villain_1 has QQ+. Raising folds out both hands on a regular basis and I'm destroying both.
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

umm, if you put villain 2 on a set, then arent' you giving in great odds to hit his set on you????
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

Even if one of them hits a set on me ~20% of the time, it still might be more +EV to slowplay to get two big bets from KKQQ. I guess it really all depends on how often villain_1 stacks off with QQKK preflop.
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

RAISE
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

Tank, then overshove. These guys are super rocks. I would be somewhat surprised if neither of them had Kings at this point.
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

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You really think a tight regular is calling a shove from another tight regular without AA often enough? I'm thinking slowplaying might be good here. A min-raise might also be good. Villain_2 is clearly set-mining or has AK and villain_1 has QQ+. Raising folds out both hands on a regular basis and I'm destroying both.

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so raise to what you think is good. obviously it's much better than calling & folding.
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