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Old 11-09-2007, 12:26 AM
Mr_Donktastic Mr_Donktastic is offline
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Default 200nl: I don\'t cbet TP in pos, leads to 2 bets from villain.

Villain is 30/7/2 over 80 hands. Seems spazzy.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

MP2: $198
CO: $84.70
Hero (BTN): $188.60
SB: $232.30
BB: $69.50
UTG: $246.55
UTG+1: $154
UTG+2: $379.90
MP1: $213.80

Pre-Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $2, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9</font>, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls $7

Flop: ($21) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($21) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+2 bets $12</font>, Hero calls $12

River: ($45) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+2 bets $32</font>, Hero calls?

Thoughts on line?
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:07 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: I don\'t cbet TP in pos, leads to 2 bets from villain.

If i delay cbet this i deffinity raise the turn donk, things would have gone better. I hope you arent asking advice for river cause its probably a fold but idk this dude could be batshit crazy. river card makes a bluff much less likey by him obv.
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: I don\'t cbet TP in pos, leads to 2 bets from villain.

this is a good reason not to isolate with shity mid aces btw (which is the theme of most your posts tonight) limping after is waaaaay mo ev against any donkey who has an agg bone in his body. If hes agg then raise him up with value and SCs and a2-5s if you wanna raise some [censored] aces.
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: I don\'t cbet TP in pos, leads to 2 bets from villain.

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this is a good reason not to isolate with shity mid aces btw (which is the theme of most your posts tonight) limping after is waaaaay mo ev against any donkey who has an agg bone in his body. If hes agg then raise him up with value and SCs and a2-5s if you wanna raise some [censored] aces.

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What you say may be true but it is against my religion to overlimp vs one limper, ESPECIALLY if he is a donkey.

I has a system and for now I'm sticking to it.
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: I don\'t cbet TP in pos, leads to 2 bets from villain.

Donk, alot of the times if I check the flop I raise turn and check river. Thoughts on that?
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: I don\'t cbet TP in pos, leads to 2 bets from villain.

I think your line is fine. I often check behind weak A-x top pair on the flop to get two streets of value later cause they never put you on the ace.

As played I think you gotta fold because of the flush IMO.
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: I don\'t cbet TP in pos, leads to 2 bets from villain.

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If i delay cbet this i deffinity raise the turn donk, things would have gone better. I hope you arent asking advice for river cause its probably a fold but idk this dude could be batshit crazy. river card makes a bluff much less likey by him obv.

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Yeah I planned on betting turn and rvr after flop check.

His donk bet threw me off a bit. Even though I hate the term I figured I was WA/WB so opted to flat call.

A raise could have clarified things more and if he called I could check behind rvr and invest about the same amount of money as calling twice.

It doesn't let him bluff the LAG though...
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:18 AM
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Donk, alot of the times if I check the flop I raise turn and check river. Thoughts on that?

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I like it.
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: I don\'t cbet TP in pos, leads to 2 bets from villain.

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Donk, alot of the times if I check the flop I raise turn and check river. Thoughts on that?

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I'm in this situation a ton because I love to play suited Ax.

I think it's better to call a turn bet and then v-bet the river yourself.
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:24 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: I don\'t cbet TP in pos, leads to 2 bets from villain.

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If i delay cbet this i deffinity raise the turn donk, things would have gone better. I hope you arent asking advice for river cause its probably a fold but idk this dude could be batshit crazy. river card makes a bluff much less likey by him obv.

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Yeah I planned on betting turn and rvr after flop check.

His donk bet threw me off a bit. Even though I hate the term I figured I was WA/WB so opted to flat call.

A raise could have clarified things more and if he called I could check behind rvr and invest about the same amount of money as calling twice.

It doesn't let him bluff the LAG though...

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He could easily have the draw on the turn if you are suggesting that he has the ability to bluff the river. also with the fd and two broadways i wouldnt say wa/wb applys. For get that simple logic and also consider that Your flop turn call range will tend to call [censored] on that river (obv) so why would he bluff.


stay with me here but also.... if you believe he has a way behind/way ahead hand (which i already dont aggree with) then hes even less likely to bluff that river with his way behindness.

ive been writing for too long time for bed.....
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