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Old 10-27-2007, 09:28 AM
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Default Re: Im so boring. Prs to be line check? NL100

I dont bet the flop because I dont want to bet/fold, and I think that very few hands of his just call on this board. I dont want to stack off on the flop because IMO the range of hands which I am ahead of there (which will call 100bb) is thin (basically only overpairs) and everything else either has pretty decent equity or just folds.

I guess the same goes on the turn, but then that makes my river shove really bad =(

On the river, his line fits a hand like KQ/AK with one spade so well that I figure I can shove for value.

Yes? No?
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:29 AM
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Default Re: Im so boring. Prs to be line check? NL100

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I dont bet the flop because I dont want to bet/fold

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?!!!??1!!!111

bet and get ai on the flop very happily.
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:30 AM
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Default Re: Im so boring. Prs to be line check? NL100

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I dont bet the flop because I dont want to bet/fold

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Wait... WHAT?

You were considering a fold? You have AA sir, not JJ!

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On the river, his line fits a hand like KQ/AK with one spade so well that I figure I can shove for value.

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I agree with this part.
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:30 AM
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Default Re: Im so boring. Prs to be line check? NL100

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I dont bet the flop because I dont want to bet/fold

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?!!!??1!!!111

bet and get ai on the flop very happily.

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Yesssssssss
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:33 AM
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Default Re: Im so boring. Prs to be line check? NL100

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I dont bet the flop because I dont want to bet/fold

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?!!!??1!!!111

bet and get ai on the flop very happily.

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OK so I guess this is something I need to work on =(
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:52 AM
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Default Re: Im so boring. Prs to be line check? NL100

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I dont bet the flop because I dont want to bet/fold

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Wait... WHAT?

You were considering a fold? You have AA sir, not JJ!

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On the river, his line fits a hand like KQ/AK with one spade so well that I figure I can shove for value.

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I agree with this part.

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Is there a flop that you wont stack off on in a rr pot with an overpair? I guess the fact that the pot is rr is what I think Im missing here - I think I am treating this more as a raised pot than a 3bet pot. Dohh
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:55 AM
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Default Re: Im so boring. Prs to be line check? NL100

KQJ against a nit
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:56 AM
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Default Re: Im so boring. Prs to be line check? NL100

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I dont bet the flop because I dont want to bet/fold

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Wait... WHAT?

You were considering a fold? You have AA sir, not JJ!

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On the river, his line fits a hand like KQ/AK with one spade so well that I figure I can shove for value.

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I agree with this part.

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Is there a flop that you wont stack off on in a rr pot with an overpair? I guess the fact that the pot is rr is what I think Im missing here - I think I am treating this more as a raised pot than a 3bet pot. Dohh

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I'm not stacking off on like QJT flops. That's uh...about it. Is his range really that rich in small pairs where you feel like getting it in is unprofitable?
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:01 AM
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Default Re: Im so boring. Prs to be line check? NL100

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I dont bet the flop because I dont want to bet/fold

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Wait... WHAT?

You were considering a fold? You have AA sir, not JJ!

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On the river, his line fits a hand like KQ/AK with one spade so well that I figure I can shove for value.

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I agree with this part.

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Is there a flop that you wont stack off on in a rr pot with an overpair? I guess the fact that the pot is rr is what I think Im missing here - I think I am treating this more as a raised pot than a 3bet pot. Dohh

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I'm not stacking off on like QJT flops. That's uh...about it. Is his range really that rich in small pairs where you feel like getting it in is unprofitable?

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As a general rule, in raised pots I would check a straight and FD flop behind because I think that stacking off there is relatively unprofitable given that the type of hand that villain will stack off with is either ahead or has excellent equity. Given that I am a fish I applied this situation to this hand but neglected to realise that this is a 3bet pot and therefore that stacking off on this flop in this hand is totally different to the situation I just described.
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:02 AM
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Default Re: Im so boring. Prs to be line check? NL100

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As a general rule, in raised pots I would check a straight and FD flop behind because I think that stacking off there is relatively unprofitable given that the type of hand that villain will stack off with is either ahead or has excellent equity.

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Yeah don't do this either. bet-bet-bet
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