Lots of flop action, overpair + fd + gutshot

[wazz]

BB is tilty, aggro, too loose, and not very good. Generally passive postflop but gets his money in sometimes in weird spots (47/12/1.5/940). MP3 is too loose and too happily stacks off without the goods or even a draw to the goods (45/17/2.7/410). My image is aggro and possibly bad, depending on who's watching.

Poker Room skin
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $5/$5
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $460.00
UTG+1: $259.00
MP1: $350.00
MP2: $1.723.55
MP3: $394.00
CO: $500.00
hero: $389.50
SB: $495.00
BB: $648.00

Pre-flop: (9 players) hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises to $30</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $140</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($570, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB is all-in $508</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 calls all-in $254</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero calls all-in $249.5</font>.
Uncalled bets: $254 returned to BB.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1323, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $1318.5, Sidepot 1: $9)

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1323, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $1318.5, Sidepot 1: $9)

[sqwisssssss]

ummmmmmm, lol.

picture this in a sammy farha voice:

"wow, you are really gambling"


ummmmmm, now for the sqwisssssss answer:

nice read on the situation and players but this still seems kind of thin.

when i look at a situation and it feels like i'm "gambling", i muck. hmmmmm, 3 way action with some equity too, but not much though...........hmmmmmm, not enough.

i dont like it but i'll keep an open mind. maybe i'll learn something.

[sqwisssssss]

wazz, let me ask you something. would you rather have nut straight with no other possible outs on this flop or your hand?

[wazz]

What kind of question is that? I'll take nut straight in a heartbeat, alex.

[thisnamedoesntfi]

The pre-flop action seems pointless to me since you have position.Maybe you can enlighten me as to why you'd do that?

I call the flop and then laugh hysterically at the runner runner baby straight that scoops.

[TheRempel]

I don't like preflop unless you expect to get it HU pretty much 100% of the time. Since the BB is too loose and probably overcalls constantly, just call the initial raise and play postflop.

The flop is simply a matter of you got yourself into this situation and now you have to call.

[sqwisssssss]

[ QUOTE ]
What kind of question is that? I'll take nut straight in a heartbeat, alex.

[/ QUOTE ]

i assure you my name is not alex. why do you say that?

[wazz]

I'm psychic, which is also how I knew I had the best hand preflop.

[sqwisssssss]

[ QUOTE ]
I don't like preflop unless you expect to get it HU pretty much 100% of the time. Since the BB is too loose and probably overcalls constantly, just call the initial raise and play postflop.

The flop is simply a matter of you got yourself into this situation and now you have to call.

[/ QUOTE ]

seriously rempel, is a call a must here? equity is thin, hand is thin........opponents being donkish is the only thing that makes the call possible but even so.........

is the call mostly based on the opponents here?

i know if i'm one of the guys pushing, wazz would be in big trouble calling with his hand.

[alavet]

we have to call. our flush draw may would be good and gutshot with such big pot makes some sense with it.

though, i dont like preflop. qq is dominated