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Old 10-03-2007, 02:35 AM
djj6835 djj6835 is offline
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Default Give me a better way to play this, $200 NL

Villain is 2p2er running at about 19/15/3. Not really sure of his range for donking the flop but I assume it is strongish hands like two pair or better, good draws, and sometimes air. Notice I pick up a pretty well concealed double gusthot on the turn. I feel like I should be raising somewhere.

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $63.60
Hero: $405.10
Button: $205.35
SB: $198
BB: $428

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $7</font>, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($15, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $10</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($35, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $24</font>, Hero calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($83, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $52</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $52 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $83
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:42 AM
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Default Re: Give me a better way to play this, $200 NL

given stacks, i raise the flop. consider raising turn.
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:50 AM
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Default Re: Give me a better way to play this, $200 NL

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given stacks, i raise the flop. consider raising turn.


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I kind of wanted to raise the turn but didnt because there is basically no hand that makes sense here for me to call flop then raise turn and I was getting the right price to just draw to my flush/straight so I took it.
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:52 AM
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Default Re: Give me a better way to play this, $200 NL

yeah i guess. you can't really rep a whole lot from a turn raise- i expect you to raise this flop with the majority of your good/decent hands. which is one of the reasons why i really like raising the flop given stacks.
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Old 10-03-2007, 03:48 AM
RikkiDee RikkiDee is offline
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Default Re: Give me a better way to play this, $200 NL

definitely don't raise turn, as you said you represent nothing and probably have a lot of outs vs his likely strong hand. You don't want to face a 3 bet push on the turn.

I actually don't see any other way to play this hand assuming this is your typical straight forward 19/15/3. He has a set here very often. Raising flop will get you into trouble here against most tags as most tags won't lead without a very strong hand. There are obviously exceptions but you didn't give taht read so I think a flop call is best.
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Old 10-03-2007, 03:48 AM
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Default Re: Give me a better way to play this, $200 NL

I like a flop raise, I think you've got a good amount of fold equity.

Edit: I didn't notice the part about him being a TAG 2+2er. Now his flop donk bet looks a lot scarier to me. I'm kind of torn between raising flop or just taking your line now.
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Old 10-03-2007, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: Give me a better way to play this, $200 NL

I like the way you played it.
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