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Old 09-23-2007, 11:10 PM
Mr_Donktastic Mr_Donktastic is offline
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Default 200nl: Not sure what to do with AA vs fish and nit

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $236.80
BB: $216.85
UTG: $200.00
UTG+1: $209.95
Hero (MP1): $237.80
MP2: $276.05
MP3: $195.00
CO: $200.00
BTN: $209.95

CO posts $2.00
Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9.00</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $7.00, 2 folds, BB calls $7.00

Flop: ($28) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $28.00</font>, Hero calls $28.00, <font color="red">CO raises to $70.00</font>, BB calls $42.00, Hero ????

BB is an super passive fish, CO is a total nit.

I've been playing like 25/19 but usually play 15/10.

Hero folds?
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:13 PM
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Default Re: 200nl: Not sure what to do with AA vs fish and nit

Fold obviously. If BB is normally passive and CO a super nit, what are you facing here that you beat? Nothing.
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: 200nl: Not sure what to do with AA vs fish and nit

Probably set vs. set or set vs. two pair.

Either way, I'd be done with this hand.
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: 200nl: Not sure what to do with AA vs fish and nit

fold I guess, but there is also the argument that you have the top of your hand range and stuff so if CO can think then maybe its a shove, but idk. Calling seems terrible to say the least. Can CO have TT-QQ, FD?
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:37 PM
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Default Re: 200nl: Not sure what to do with AA vs fish and nit

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fold I guess, but there is also the argument that you have the top of your hand range and stuff so if CO can think then maybe its a shove, but idk. Calling seems terrible to say the least. Can CO have TT-QQ, FD?

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Yeah, a super nit is not stacking off here without a set, IMO.
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: 200nl: Not sure what to do with AA vs fish and nit

It sucks, but fold.
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:52 PM
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Default Re: 200nl: Not sure what to do with AA vs fish and nit

Are we saying that this guy is DEFINITELY a level one thinker though? Because otherwise I think we might have to stack off since we have literally the best hand in our range. By stack off I obviously mean shove.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: Not sure what to do with AA vs fish and nit

CO is your avg nit. Would only raise here with a set or overpair.

BB is very passive. Typical fish. His lead/call is a litlte strange and makes me think he has a weak overpair or more likely a FD. I think he would jam a set when it gets back to him.

So maybe this is just a simple math problem...let me look at pokerstove.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: Not sure what to do with AA vs fish and nit

hmmm something about this doesn't seem right

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

601,398 games 0.031 secs 19,399,935 games/sec

Board: 7d 9d 2s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.117% 56.12% 00.00% 337485 0.00 { AcAd }

Hand 1: 14.428% 14.39% 00.04% 86553 216.00 { QQ-TT, KdQd, KdJd, KdTd, Kd9d, QdJd, QdTd, Qd9d, JdTd, Jd9d, Td9d, 9d8d, 8d7d }

Hand 2: 29.455% 29.42% 00.04% 176928 216.00 { KK-99, 77, 22 }
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: Not sure what to do with AA vs fish and nit

Does a true nit really raise that flop with JJ/TT?
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