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Old 09-20-2007, 12:11 PM
wazz wazz is offline
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Default Bet turn? How much? ($1/2 deep)

Villain is 48/18/2.3. He's a semibluffer, but looks out of the water in big pots. I've seen him misplay draws heavily a few times, but is not a huge donator.

Whether or not to bet the turn isn't quite trivial, but I'm pretty sure I bet it 100%. Anyone have any convincing arguments as to whether or not to check?

The issue, though, is stack sizes. I think a lot of his range is KK + flush draw, so I need to leave myself room to make a big bluff should I miss.

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Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $2/$2
7 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $1.117.80
UTG+1: $415.80
MP1: $104.70
hero: $465.80
Button: $197.65
SB: $196
BB: $350.15

Pre-flop: (7 players) hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $8</font>, MP1 folds, hero calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($26, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $15</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $71</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($168, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>?
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:18 PM
Rob121 Rob121 is offline
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Default Re: Bet turn? How much? ($1/2 deep)

i can never bring myself to check in these places. i'd bet $140 ish. Then shove the river if he checks and pray hes capable to lay down his set and busted flush draw.
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:19 PM
schusch schusch is offline
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Default Re: Bet turn? How much? ($1/2 deep)

hm,id bet 125 or so here and ofc call a shove,more taff decision is the river if everything misses.
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:35 PM
Elrazor Elrazor is offline
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Default Re: Bet turn? How much? ($1/2 deep)

i think you are right with KK+fd and also 789x might be possible, although if he likes to felt draws there is a good chance he will have comitted on the flop

i bet about $100 on the turn - you really want to price any kind of flush draw in obviously, and also leave about $150-200 to bet a blank river. overall this is obviously a great spot to try and bust your target
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Old 09-20-2007, 01:10 PM
RoundTower RoundTower is offline
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Default Re: Bet turn? How much? ($1/2 deep)

If you go 130 or something you can definitely make a credible river bluff.
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Old 09-20-2007, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Bet turn? How much? ($1/2 deep)

just hit the river, then you don't have to bluff.

I like $120 - $130ish, leaves him to call off close to 1/2 his stack on the river.
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Old 09-20-2007, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: Bet turn? How much? ($1/2 deep)

$145 and shove any river if checked to...Be happy if he gets it all in on the turn I think...
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Old 09-20-2007, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: Bet turn? How much? ($1/2 deep)

If I bet too much, do I not risk folding out hands that could pay me off if I hit the river? I'd be representing a straight, so I think he'll fold KK + 2nfd if I bet close to full pot, whereas if I keep him in with that hand I can bet him off the best hand when I miss and get paid off when I hit.
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:49 PM
TimberBee TimberBee is offline
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Default Re: Bet turn? How much? ($1/2 deep)

Yeah, I mean 120$ seems good here...
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:30 PM
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Results: I bet $85, he calls. Turn is yahtzee 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], he checks and calls my all-in with AH KD 3H 6D.
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