400NL: Turning a hand with SD value into a bluff, part 1.

[Mr_Donktastic]

Villain is 24/12/3 over 200 hands, cbets 80% of the time, overall pretty aggro.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $1,091.40
BB: $400.00
UTG: $575.90
UTG+1: $394.80
MP: $456.20
Hero (CO): $508.70
BTN: $122.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $16.00</font>, Hero calls $16.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($38) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $24.00</font>, Hero calls $24.00

Turn: ($86) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $32.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $96.00</font>

[GrandMelon]

meh, I wouldnt try this against a decent hand reader cause you are repping air/draws

[Mr_Donktastic]

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meh, I wouldnt try this against a decent hand reader cause you are repping air/draws

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So you'd just call? Plan for river?

I know I'm not repping much but he is repping nothing with his girly-man bet so....

[uminchu]

is calling an option or do you not want to let him price himself in for his overcards with the weak bet?

[Mr_Donktastic]

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is calling an option or do you not want to let him price himself in for his overcards with the weak bet?

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Calling is def and option. Folding would be criminal imo.

[4Clover]

I like just calling here, your hand still has show down value. Controlling the pot is important, and with your position you will more then likely get a check from him with QJ and below on the river. Allowing you to win the pot when your 10's are good, and not losing a large amount of money if your 10's are no good.

Again raising here is not bad either, as long as you don't face any more heat.

$Clover

[Mr_Donktastic]

So this is what I'm thinking...

I think he most likely has overcards, 44-99, or a FD based on his small turn bet. In other words I think I'm almost always ahead (though vulnerable to some of his range).

I don't know why a J would bet small like that on the turn unless it was a weak J that wanted to test the waters. So a strong J is unlikely imo, a weak J a possibility.

If you take my read on his range as a given, that means that I should raise both as a bluff and to protect my hand at the same time...weird huh?

Anyone picking up what I'm putting down [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[Mr_Donktastic]

Wow nothing huh.

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raise vs call

advantages with raising: His small bet on the turn might indicate a weak jack trying to price out draws and stop you floating him, so raising will probably fold this out.

advantages with calling: You won't fold out the hands you have dominated and maybe get more value from them on the river.

You probably won't care about my opinion but after thinking about it I really like the raise. You fold out one of his most likely holdings which has you beat and you probably dont get any more value from an underpair. You also price out draws. If he raises you know your beat and can fold for more than the price of a bet on the river. I wouldn't bet on the river though if he calls and would fold to a turn reraise.

I would call however if I thought the opp would bet again with 99-66 or would call a bet with those hands. Considering you think hes aggressive I also don't like the fact he could overbet the river when a flush hits as a bluff/for value leaving you in a tricky spot. IMO the river can bring too many bad cards leaving raising the best option!

Go for gold son

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If you take my read on his range as a given, that means that I should raise both as a bluff and to protect my hand at the same time...weird huh?


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Weird thats exactly what I eventually got to, before reading your post (: I try to write a response before reading any other posts to influence my judgement. It's quite an interesting hand, good to see you posting on the forums again mr donk. Now if only I could get you to look at my NL10 hands (: My previous posts were rubbish though I've learnt alot since then I hope.

cya at NL400 soon!