Uggg i suck at BvB! - Page 2

Unknown Soldier · #11 09-03-2007, 01:07 PM

why is lead > check? You think this guy is quite likely to bluff over a lead?

jfish · #12 09-03-2007, 01:11 PM

i do.

Kairos · #13 09-03-2007, 01:14 PM

I really dont like calling pf. I think folding>>4bet>>>>>calling there. 4betting pre maybe better if he 3bet you a ton before.
Also it's propably better to make it 8 preflop.

I like a shove on the river if he respects you.

Worm75 · #14 09-03-2007, 01:16 PM

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why is lead > check? You think this guy is quite likely to bluff over a lead?

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I see this quite a bit in 3-bet pots where I have been hammering on the guy. Not to say this is the situation, but in certain situations you have to expect it.

I would guess Jfish sees this a lot more at MSNL where people are better at assigning ranges and thus bluff more vs certain actions

Unknown Soldier · #15 09-03-2007, 01:21 PM

im just weighing up value of getting his cbet vs leading. Although probably not a great idea to go against jfish!

as for the ranges thing, if a tag lead into me in a 3b pot id give him credit the 1st time. i think it would be a pretty big spew to bluff shove over a lead here.

So against me a lead wouldnt be great (unless you had air [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img])

Also, if we c/c he is just as liable to bluff shove the turn then he is to bluff over a lead (maybe?)

HoldEmNewby · #16 09-03-2007, 01:26 PM

Preflop is questionable, but its not terrible.

River is easy fold as played. I personally wouldn't check this river unless I was folding.

Worm75 · #17 09-03-2007, 01:30 PM

I think C/c is pretty strong on this board, and if we c/c and he bets the turn I think it's a fold.

Unknown Soldier · #18 09-03-2007, 01:41 PM

i dont think it is, could eaily be 77-99. No stronger then leading anyway

Jay Riall · #19 09-03-2007, 01:51 PM

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im just weighing up value of getting his cbet vs leading. Although probably not a great idea to go against jfish!

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Who is this jfish? Some micro poster or something?

jfish · #20 09-03-2007, 01:54 PM

i think people overvalue initiative and when you donk into the pfrr i think he will greatly overdefend. especially considering he usually has 2 overcards on this board making it a pretty reasonable semibluff for him.