i take a passive line with ak ... river over bet

[markuisis]

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I like ur line and think it has merits in itself without its deception value. (allow villain to bluff, allow villain to catch up and call down 2 streets on turn and river because u seemed weak on flop, avoid playing for stacks on a dry board). Against calling stations obviously fire big on every street though. I'd prob raise the turn here, ur line looks sorta FOS, u get value from draws (lots of them on the turn r possible), u get value from worse aces or bluffcatchers cause of ur weird line and u get a better idea of where u stand. As for the river as played, u only beat a bluff IMO because its doubtful he is overbetting for value with a hand like aj or a10, so without having seen many overbets id prob muck but cause generally at 100nl ppl dont overbet bluff.

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If you play passively, you have to pay off bluffs. Hero looks weak, and villain is betting strongly. Often, that is a bluff, but without reads it is hard to know, which is why this line should be avoiding when you don't know the villain. Once you get to the river, you have to call most bets.

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call if u want, to me an overbet without overbetting history at 100nl isnt a bluff and I dont think he value overbets aj or a10, thats all it comes down to. If u think he could overbet bluff here or value bet worse then call. Against a normal bet id obviously call and if it was weak or player was very call stationy (wouldnt have played the hand up to then this way in that case but w/e) then id raise.

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more times than not i have found that over bets are made hands ...

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thats what i said so i dunno what the 3 points at the end are for and in that case id fold..................

[jordiepop]

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thats what i said so i dunno what the 3 points at the end are for and in that case id fold..................

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just taking it all in and seeing both arguments both leaning towards ur reasoning......................................... ........................

[orange]

i typically bet the flop and take it from there (as you do as well).

river i think is at least a call given the way we got there, definitely can consider raising as well.