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Old 10-23-2007, 03:27 AM
deaders deaders is offline
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Default i have no [censored] idea in these spots

35/16/1.3, donkey, dont know what else to tell you.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $96.20
UTG: $100.55
MP: $204.80
CO: $188
Hero (BTN): $243.65
SB: $190.15

CO posts $1
Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $2, MP folds, CO calls $2, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $10, CO folds

Flop: ($30) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $23</font>, UTG calls $23

Turn: ($76) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $26</font>

note his stack size
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: i have no [censored] idea in these spots

calling cant be that bad, can it?
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:32 AM
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i fold. you dont really know what outs, if any, are good.

I know it feels weak folding to this small bet, but if he is bad you can find better spots to exploit him.

If the turn was a non-diamond, then its different story.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:34 AM
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Default Re: i have no [censored] idea in these spots

i think he's rarely check/calling the flop with the nut or second nut flush draw than leading out tiny on the turn, compared to when he has &lt;q high flush. for that reason i'd call.
precise,
thek and q outs may not be clean keep in mind so the diamond is in fact good for us.
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:03 AM
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yeah. i mean. calling is not bad here for sure. you're getting 3-1 to draw and are 4-1 to hit.
with implied odds (since he only has a half stack) its +EV to call, but not by a whole lot.

i think the times our K or Q hits and wins are pretty much canceled out by the times he has the flush and we lose.

btw.. what are we doing if a K or Q hits?
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:11 AM
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fold...hes only got 40 behind so youre basically playing with about a psb left on the turn...not good enough to chase.
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:15 AM
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yeah. i mean. calling is not bad here for sure. you're getting 3-1 to draw and are 4-1 to hit.
with implied odds (since he only has a half stack) its +EV to call, but not by a whole lot.

i think the times our K or Q hits and wins are pretty much canceled out by the times he has the flush and we lose.

btw.. what are we doing if a K or Q hits?

[/ QUOTE ]

youre making the mistake of counting the flush draw as 9 outs, when in reality its more like 6-7 on average considering the times he has a higher flush draw, a flush, or a set, etc.
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:25 AM
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Calling seems really bad to me so I figured it to be a fold, but it just feels so wrong to give up the pot to a bet of that size.
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:29 AM
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I'd fold without much thought even though it feels really dirty.
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