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Old 10-09-2007, 12:44 AM
ASPoker8 ASPoker8 is offline
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Default Re: Anybody fold this sooner?, $200 NL

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If you can't shove this flop, you should be folding pf.

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you can shove this flop, but letting him two barrel is more profitable usually.

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yeah

Obviously you can shove the flop. But its not the best line.
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:47 AM
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Default Re: Anybody fold this sooner?, $200 NL

ASP, I am definitely not trying to say villian only 3bets QQ+, infact im saying the oppisite, I put villian on a very wide range here PF, I just don't think he's giving away very much when we have him beat on the flop, but gives us a chance to really lose a lot is all im saying.
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: Anybody fold this sooner?, $200 NL

so we call his cbet and if the turn is an A,K or Q we fold or check behind?

if its a blank we call a shove or check behind to let him bluff the river?
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:59 AM
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Default Re: Anybody fold this sooner?, $200 NL

If it's an A K or Q we fold sometimes and call sometimes. If it's a blank I'd call his shove or shove it in myself.
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: Anybody fold this sooner?, $200 NL

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If it's an A K or Q we fold sometimes and call sometimes. If it's a blank I'd call his shove or shove it in myself.

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How are you determining whether or not to call in the case of the k coming off? Readless I'm always folding, we are now behind a decent portion of his range and the king also makes it significantly less likely he is betting worse. Unless he makes some obvious blocking bet I'm almost always folding aaginst an unknown.
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: Anybody fold this sooner?, $200 NL

If you call the 3bet you have to call on that flop otherwise there is no point in calling and you are playing for set value (yes I call the 3bet). Turn is an easy fold, 17/10s dont double barrel with anything that would make a call profitable. Well played.
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