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Old 08-13-2007, 05:39 AM
dchz dchz is offline
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Default AJ 3 bet button Opener

Villian is Rakazha on FTP

i assume he's opening wide on the button i'm sure

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $197.00
BB: $200.30
UTG: $153.10
CO: $97.00
BTN: $235.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $27.00</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $20.00

Flop: ($56) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $43.00</font>, BTN calls $43.00

Turn: ($142) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)


i think c-bet is stand

but what are you plans on the turn?


also what do you do if you check and he bets around 79, which is like half pot???
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:49 AM
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Default Re: AJ 3 bet button Opener

i think it doesn't really matter what we do, sometimes you'll be betting this turn with air so we have to do it with AJ sometimes too to make bluffing profitable. And i think if you're going to 3bet AJ when the ace hits on this board you shouldnt feel too bad about stacking off.
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Old 08-13-2007, 07:26 AM
5thStreetHog 5thStreetHog is offline
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Default Re: AJ 3 bet button Opener

I like a check here,but i think if he bets i get em in and hope he didnt float us with AK/AQ.I think betting isnt bad but most the hands we beat spec. ks-9s i think we have a better chance getting the rest of our chips in with a turn check here without having to worry much about a redraw on this board.
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Old 08-13-2007, 07:29 AM
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Default Re: AJ 3 bet button Opener

If he got you beat you're stacking of, not much you can do about it. On the turn I just try to think about how to extract the most value from 99-KK. If he got 88 or some dumb AK there's not much you can do about it as I mentioned.

He probably releases 99-KK if you fire, I would check and VB river if he checks behind. If he bets, well just get your money in there since the pot is so big that there's only a psb left. In the case $79 I don't think it matter if you CRAI or donk river.
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Old 08-13-2007, 07:40 AM
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Default Re: AJ 3 bet button Opener

I like a shove here, I think he thinks you'll check teh AK and i dont like leading the river, if u do check check the river to and go for crai
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Old 08-13-2007, 07:43 AM
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Default Re: AJ 3 bet button Opener

i shove the turn nearly always.

regarding preflop which im sure some will complain about:

against people i have a good read on postflop and find them easy to outplay, even oop, i call. this has the advantages of keeping the pot small and manageable when we flop top pair.

against people who are tough to outplay postflop (alot of nl200 regs imho - but im sure thats coz im terrible postflop!) and are capable of calling down bluffs light (when do people ever NOT call me down light lol) etc, i prefer 3betting preflop so i dont have to play a pot with them oop.

there are some regs id call against, and some id rather 3bet against with this pf.

if i had 3bet this guy light preflop, flopped nothing, cbet got called and this was the turn. id shove with air aswell.

also i think your cbet size could probably be a bit smaller. maybe 30-35$ would do. 80% pot cbet size seems a bit big imho. i sometimes crai on the flop too (whats his top pair with a sc, TT/JJ beating then?! he might even fold QQ some of the time i think...and you take away his ability to just shove that flop over your cbet)
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:12 AM
Suigin406 Suigin406 is offline
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Default Re: AJ 3 bet button Opener

is he the type to float with AK/AQ??...if he is, i like a bet here rather than the shove...if not, i go for the c/r and since i'm guessing his range includes way more than than just those 2 hands, i do the latter
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:23 AM
Mat Cauthon Mat Cauthon is offline
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Default Re: AJ 3 bet button Opener

I would push here to protect from being outdrawn. I think his bluffing is equaled out by him calling a little lighter on the turn, because it looks like a better spot for us to bluff.
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:37 AM
RocktheCasbah RocktheCasbah is offline
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Default Re: AJ 3 bet button Opener

i dont see any draws to be worried about. THis could be AK/AQ...I would check turn to see what villain does.

Either way, my decision will be made on turn - C/F or CRAI
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:43 AM
Mat Cauthon Mat Cauthon is offline
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Default Re: AJ 3 bet button Opener

If he has AK/AQ your stacking off anyway.
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