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aaaaaaaa · #1 10-11-2007, 09:57 PM

Full Tilt Poker Game #3809796721: $55,000 Guarantee (28458922), Table 6 - 3000/6000 Ante 750 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:15:22 ET - 2007/10/10
Seat 1: dharma1 (179,342)
Seat 4: The Reaper4 (24,882)
Seat 5: Young_Jedi76 (201,713)
Seat 7: darrenelias (98,102)
Seat 8: NotYetBust (57,982)
Seat 9: fkscreennames (209,996)
dharma1 antes 750
The Reaper4 antes 750
Young_Jedi76 antes 750
darrenelias antes 750
NotYetBust antes 750
fkscreennames antes 750
fkscreennames posts the small blind of 3,000
dharma1 posts the big blind of 6,000
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to fkscreennames [Qs Ad]
The Reaper4 raises to 24,132, and is all in
Young_Jedi76 folds
darrenelias has 15 seconds left to act
darrenelias calls 24,132
NotYetBust folds
fkscreennames has 15 seconds left to act
fkscreennames has requested TIME
fkscreennames ???????

in this hand i actually made a retarded fold although im not asking if i should fold or not was wondering if i should shove or call i know it seens wierd calling in this spot but when darren calls here and doesnt ISO he has to be either trapping or has a hand hes folding to a shove so when it gets to me if i shove basically the only time i get called is when im dominated so what do i do call or shove?

Superfluous Man · #2 10-11-2007, 10:35 PM

I just shove. If he folds worse hands, so what? You get to go up against the shorty's giant range with a sizable overlay!

eBo · #3 10-11-2007, 11:27 PM

Easy shove.

aaaaaaaa · #4 10-12-2007, 12:56 AM

what kind of a bet am i making here doesnt seem like a bluff or a value bet a protective bet i guess?

Soulman · #5 10-12-2007, 04:16 AM

Shove. You do see people doing this with monsters, but more often with vulnerable ok hands that will fold to a shove.

By shoving you fold out most worse hands, but on the upside you can a big overlay.

registrar · #6 10-12-2007, 04:47 AM

I think this is a reasonable fold personally having DB-ed villain. He's flatting 1/4 of his chips six-handed with at least one lag behind him. Because you say it was retarded, I can only presume he showed up with worse or a hand that would have folded but I still think folding is reasonable.

I still think shoving is better.

Ciprian · #7 10-12-2007, 10:48 AM

easy fold. probably you faced a medium-high pair TT+ and the worst scenario AK with an A in flop.
10% of the stack can be invested in secure pots. not in conflip

Soulman · #8 10-12-2007, 10:51 AM

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easy fold. probably you faced a medium-high pair TT+ and the worst scenario AK with an A in flop.
10% of the stack can be invested in secure pots. not in conflip

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