**Official Potawatomi Poker Room Expansion Suggestions**

[chitown]

I'm going to be in town for a few weeks for work in Feb -- I'm going to check out the games for sure, anyone know if they are running regular tournies? I can't find any new info on the www.paysbig.com website?

[Nuevo99]

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I'm going to be in town for a few weeks for work in Feb -- I'm going to check out the games for sure, anyone know if they are running regular tournies? I can't find any new info on the www.paysbig.com website?

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No tournies, just cash games.

[Yo Adrians!]

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My significant other and I were visiting some friends in Milwaukee this weekend. My friend and I decided to check out Potawatomi. Anyway, I thought people might want a brief post-expansion update (since I couldn't find many in this thread or anywhere else on the forum), so a trip report follows.

We could not head over there until 8:30 PM on Saturday night. Based on this thread, I assumed that the wait times would be killer; in fact, I thought we might not even be able to play. I called ahead about 1 1/2 hours before we arrived. Wait times were not a problem. My friend wanted to play 2/4 limit; there was a spot for him after about 10 minutes. (There was no wait for 3/6, but he didn't want to play that.) I wanted to play 3/5 NL. I had to wait about 40 minutes, but there was a 5/10 limit seat available immediately, and I played that while I waited.

I played 3/5 NL until 2:00 AM or so. At first, I think there were 3 tables going. There was no list however, and they eventually combined the tables so that there were 2. After that, there was a constant stream of new players. Not sure how deep the list got, but it couldn't have been too long or they would have opened another table. (There are 15-17 tables or so; at least 2 were empty.) (I wonder if the extreme cold caused a slower night than usual. It was a very cold day, a lot of people might have chosen to stay home.)

All in all I liked the card room. I usually play at the boats in East Chicago and Gary, and I would prefer to play here. (Not sure if would be worth the longer drive from Chicago, though.)

Things I liked: (a) 3/5 NL, 600 max is a nice-sized game for my bankroll, I think, compared to 2/5 NL, 300 max (at Majestic Star - initial stack is too shallow for my tastes) or 5/10 NL, 1000 max (at Resorts, a good game, but can sometimes get a little too big for me personally [although that doesn't stop me from playing]); (b) despite what management apparently told some people in this thread, the NL game is still raked (10%, $4 max) - and this is a lot better than the huge time charges in Indiana, in my opinion; (c) clean chips - this is a luxury after playing at Majestic Star and something I never take for granted; (d) there are chip runners and the dealer would call the waitress over if someone wanted a drink (obviously, these are things taken for granted in Vegas and most of the civilized word, but they are not things we are accustomed to in Indiana).

Bad things: (a) as mentioned above, the poker room is attached to a (depressingly) huge bingo hall, not the casino, so the lighting is not the best (flourescent lights) and fewer "blackjack players who want to try poker" are making their way there; (b) no alcohol allowed in the poker room - the badness of this should be self-evident; (c) Dealer quality was VERY uneven. Some of the dealers were very, very good; some were very, very bad. And I mean bad, as in occasionally asking the players what the rules are. There was one dealer in particular who (while very nice) simply should not have been dealing a poker game; it seems inevitable that if she keeps dealing that NL game, she will make a mistake that will cost someone thousands of dollars, and that will be unpleasant for everyone (especially her).

Some people were complaining at one table about some problem with the floor treating customers poorly (I believe it had something to do with turning the TV to a certain channel), but I didn't get the details and my brief interactions with the floor were fine.

As for the game itself, it was as good as people have been saying in this thread. Of course, I suck at poker, so I still ended up down.

Again, despite the negatives, I think I would prefer to play here than in East Chicago or Gary (if that's not damning with faint praise, I don't know what is) - assuming the games prove in the long run to be equally good.

If anyone has any questions, I'll try to check in and answer them, although I'm not sure I know anything useful that I didn't put in this post. Again, I just thought people would want a brief post-expansion report.

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I've been there twice since the expansion, and this report is extremely accurate.

The day Floor - white guy, late 30s/early 40s, with a mustache - is an inconsiderate, jerk-off prick who wouldn't know customer service if it came up and bit him in the nose. Outside of that, though, the new room is A-OK.

[magoo]

"The day Floor - white guy, late 30s/early 40s, with a mustache - is an inconsiderate, jerk-off prick who wouldn't know customer service if it came up and bit him in the nose."

[Yo Adrians!]

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"The day Floor - white guy, late 30s/early 40s, with a mustache - is an inconsiderate, jerk-off prick who wouldn't know customer service if it came up and bit him in the nose."

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Have you had, uh, great experiences with him, too?

[TurdFerguson]

Anyone going to be there tomorrow? If so, PM me or give a shout-out in this thread -- I'll be there all day.

[magoo]

After your visit, post the games that were actually up .

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Anyone going to be there tomorrow? If so, PM me or give a shout-out in this thread -- I'll be there all day.

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[The Rev]

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After your visit, post the games that were actually up .

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Anyone going to be there tomorrow? If so, PM me or give a shout-out in this thread -- I'll be there all day.

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Didnt write them down, but they appeared to be
4 2/4
4 3/6
1 5/10
1 10/20
1 1/5 stud
4 3/5 NL
Quit a few interests list that never got off.

Also they were handing out to people the poker room rules.
I saw one of the floor persons scolding a table and making sure they all were aware of the rules and handing them all a sheet.
It was kinda funny!
I also think they are not going to 17 tables. They are maxing out at 15 due to floor space.

[TurdFerguson]

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After your visit, post the games that were actually up .

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Anyone going to be there tomorrow? If so, PM me or give a shout-out in this thread -- I'll be there all day.

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Didnt write them down, but they appeared to be
4 2/4
4 3/6
1 5/10
1 10/20
1 1/5 stud
4 3/5 NL
Quit a few interests list that never got off.

Also they were handing out to people the poker room rules.
I saw one of the floor persons scolding a table and making sure they all were aware of the rules and handing them all a sheet.
It was kinda funny!
I also think they are not going to 17 tables. They are maxing out at 15 due to floor space.

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Confirmed. I called ahead at around 10:30 a.m. on Saturday, got there at 11, and still had to wait 2 hours to get into the 3/5 NL game. When I arrived they only had 2 tables of NL going (8 tables total) with lists AT LEAST 30 deep for all games. Quite ridiculous, IMO. No one ever said if it was because they didn't have the dealers available to open extra games or what, but they clearly are having struggles adjusting to the high demand on busy days. Once I got in the game, things were fine, even though I ended up dropping 3.5 buyins. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] I can think of only 1 or 2 dealers who were somewhat slow or needed help with divvying up a main vs. side pot.

In summation, the new dealers are improving, but the floor is still struggling to handle the long waiting lists and opening of new tables in a timely fashion. Hope this helps, and hope to see you there sometime in the near future.

TF

[Nuevo99]

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After your visit, post the games that were actually up .

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Anyone going to be there tomorrow? If so, PM me or give a shout-out in this thread -- I'll be there all day.

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Didnt write them down, but they appeared to be
4 2/4
4 3/6
1 5/10
1 10/20
1 1/5 stud
4 3/5 NL
Quit a few interests list that never got off.

Also they were handing out to people the poker room rules.
I saw one of the floor persons scolding a table and making sure they all were aware of the rules and handing them all a sheet.
It was kinda funny!
I also think they are not going to 17 tables. They are maxing out at 15 due to floor space.

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Confirmed. I called ahead at around 10:30 a.m. on Saturday, got there at 11, and still had to wait 2 hours to get into the 3/5 NL game. When I arrived they only had 2 tables of NL going (8 tables total) with lists AT LEAST 30 deep for all games. Quite ridiculous, IMO. No one ever said if it was because they didn't have the dealers available to open extra games or what, but they clearly are having struggles adjusting to the high demand on busy days. Once I got in the game, things were fine, even though I ended up dropping 3.5 buyins. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] I can think of only 1 or 2 dealers who were somewhat slow or needed help with divvying up a main vs. side pot.

In summation, the new dealers are improving, but the floor is still struggling to handle the long waiting lists and opening of new tables in a timely fashion. Hope this helps, and hope to see you there sometime in the near future.

TF

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~2 hours wait seems to be the norm no matter what time you show up. (unless it's like at 2am or on a holiday or something)

When I call in, I always do so a full hour at least before I plan on leaving (I plan on possibly taking slightly less than an hour to get there).

In any event weeknights or weekends, a 2 hour wait is the norm there for almost any game. I think because you can call in and they give you 2 hours, they must of just decided that it's acceptable to have a 2 hour wait. That's the only explanation I can think of for how they happen to always have the right amount of tables going to cause a 2 hour + wait.

(Someone else can say otherwise but since the new room opened it's been around 2 hours everytime. But at least it has never been the crazy 3, 4 or more hour wait that we used to see)