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Old 09-06-2007, 02:50 PM
youngin20 youngin20 is offline
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Default .5/1 Big Draw bricks off...again. I try and give away my money.

Ok, no real read, but I feel like if I hit, I am setting up for a decent value bet, and I think my FE on both 4th and 5th is fairly good, unless he is playing a set...badly.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP3 ($93)
CO ($43.50)
Button ($16)
SB ($117.80)
BB ($167.90)
UTG ($49.20)
UTG+1 ($17.85)
MP1 ($114.60)
Hero ($96)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $1, Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $1, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $3</font>, BB folds, MP1 folds, Hero calls $3, Button folds.

Turn: ($11) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, SB calls $10.

River: ($47) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $25</font>....flame away.
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:21 PM
Bramsterdam Bramsterdam is offline
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Default Re: .5/1 Big Draw bricks off...again. I try and give away my money.

I raise flop, and make it bigger on the river IF I want to bluff river.
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: .5/1 Big Draw bricks off...again. I try and give away my money.

oh my god
RAISE THE FLOP

wtf are you repping? A4cc?
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:52 PM
youngin20 youngin20 is offline
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Default Re: .5/1 Big Draw bricks off...again. I try and give away my money.

Yeah, I have been constantly raising the flop with a big draw like this, and when the turn bricks, I feel very lost. I was more curious about the turn raise, because I feel like it sets up both a river value bet, or river bluff, as well as fold equity. Can you give more insight on the turn/river plays? I thought the 25 looked like a set/two pair, but then again, it might look like a total bluff.
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: .5/1 Big Draw bricks off...again. I try and give away my money.

your bet looks like a number, you need to consider what other hands (good ones) you would play in this manner. The answer is none, and so a decent player is going to look you up with a Q here every time. Now maybe you got lucky and hes on clubs or a straight draw and you get a fold, but in general this river bet sucks.

Raise the flop, you have position on the guy who lead and a billion outs. If the turn bricks you can take a free one. If the guy 3bets the flop you have an easy shove for a flip with dead money.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: .5/1 Big Draw bricks off...again. I try and give away my money.

if ur calling the flop, your turn raise blows nuts. Also blows nuts because it is like a minraise.

river...overbet it if u gonna do so.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: .5/1 Big Draw bricks off...again. I try and give away my money.

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your bet looks like a number, you need to consider what other hands (good ones) you would play in this manner. The answer is none, and so a decent player is going to look you up with a Q here every time. Now maybe you got lucky and hes on clubs or a straight draw and you get a fold, but in general this river bet sucks.

Raise the flop, you have position on the guy who lead and a billion outs. If the turn bricks you can take a free one. If the guy 3bets the flop you have an easy shove for a flip with dead money.

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This would be my default line.
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