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Re: Is this a donk move?
I think this is the only way to play it. On 5th, if the bettor were to your immediate left, the correct play in a freezeout tournament is probably to raise and attempt to get all-in given your stack size, but since the rest of the field is left to act after you, I would just call as you did.
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Re: Is this a donk move?
the call on 4th is extremely marginal. the default play should be to fold here.
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Re: Is this a donk move?
A play nobody has mentioned is raising Four.
You will probably be heads-up and in position on the Ace from here out, unless you catch an Ace card or pair in-sight, which would probably allow you to take the pot on the next card. You may also catch a Diamond or make a pair, both of which would be nice, and would allow you to take a free one if you thought you needed it. It isn't something you'd do all the time, but with a bunch of low un-threatening boards behind you, and nobody displaying much interest in the pot, this is a good time for it because you won't lose position unless you improve (or appear to improve) your hand. |
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Re: Is this a donk move?
Raising is an interesting line, but these tourneys players will call 2 bets with anything almost as often as 1. if I caught my diamond on 4th i would surely jam.
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Re: Is this a donk move?
raising 4th street is a complete spew. this guy completed 3rd street and then bet into the entire field on 4th after catching nothing. he is going no where. you have no hand and need to hit perfect just to have any shot at winning.
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Re: Is this a donk move?
I don't think raising is necessarily best, but it's worth considering. Let's assume you need to beat a pair of Aces at the moment to win.
If hero raises on Fourth and loses the deadwood, then he's wagering 1BB to win 4+BB on Fourth, likely getting a free one on Fifth, and about 4:1 dog (by eye) if it gets heads-up on Fourth. If seat 2 has a pair less than Kings (and he will some of the time), hero is about 3:1 dog, maybe as good as 5:2 if the pair is dead. It isn't a huge moneymaker play, but hardly spew. Hero has enough invested as a percentage of his stack that trying to win what's in there is worth a shot, and raising Fourth is less expensive than calling a half-bet on Fourth and a full bet on Fifth. It only gets bad if the Ace re-raises, and that's pretty bad, so folding is certainly less risky. I think a raise is worth considering if the temper of the opponents implies (a) that it will be effective in getting some of them out of the pot, (b) you won't get re-popped by the Ace, and (c) you are likely to get a free card on Fifth. If none of those things apply, then yeah, screw it, get out. |
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Re: Is this a donk move?
all options are always worth considering. but once you consider raising you will see that it is clearly wrong. also, i doubt you get rid of the guy who has 3 spades on his board. also, if you somehow make a flush raising decreases your implied odds. also, you have no hand.
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