We haven't won yet: latest (10/19) cliff's notes on AP scandal

[suzzer99]

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It came from here

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What kind of a last name is Tom?

[Cruzincat]

At this point a HS yearbook picture could help lead us to a more recent picture. Anyone looking in hat direction?

[imabigdeal]

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It came from here

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What kind of a last name is Tom?

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i would seriously doubt that is scott tom

edit: this is ridiculous though. obviously somebody knows this guy that has been reading this thread.

[gumpzilla]

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if it's a lie, we'll just get 37 more emails from insiders about it since AP's not exactly a tight lipped community right now

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That's great, but as I wrote before the full truth seems likely to be suicidal. If they come up with a good enough lie to convince most of the world, isn't that good enough for them? What's going to happen to them if they keep lying? When can the law get involved? If it can already, why isn't anybody looking that way?

[bronx bomber]

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This basically confirms the idiots at AP keeping making up something new everday and gauge our reaction.

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MODS, Lock this post after reading this and start the new thread "AP says suck my dick" Game over folks.

[admiralfluff]

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All,

I have spoken to a few confidential sources today and, for the first time since this started, I was told a story that would make sense. Part of the story is that Scott Tom was not involved, at least not directly. However, the story also indicates VERY significant negligence on the part of AP's management, including Scott Tom. Management was alerted well before they admitted it publicly (but then again, we knew that much). However, it appears that management was not aware of the issue while the cheating itself was going on. In addition, the story I was told indicates that the geek/hacker "trying to prove a point" thing is not accurate.

While I am not 100% convinced of the above story, it actually makes a lot of sense and the pieces of evidence that I've seen have started to come together.

I am still awaiting the AP statement to see what they have to say.

-Nat

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Nat, I am extremely impressed with all the work you have done thus far, but I must say that I feel you are being naive, or are grasping for a compromise to resolve this matter. I feel like I shouldn't have to say this, but we know they will not come clean. The evidence and their behavior thus far indicate one thing: The people in comtrol of AP are directly involved in the cheating. They just want this to go away, and will keep offering incremental consolations until we are no longer 'thirsting for blood'. The only thing that will prevent further cheating is a complete rehaul of AP. I don't know if this can happen without destroying the company, but if we accept anything less, it will be back to business as usual in no time.

They have demonstrated malic and guilt. The goal should not be to goad the truth, but to prosecute. I cannot fathom why we should care about anything they have to say at this point.

[Kneel B4 Zod]

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It came from here

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What kind of a last name is Tom?

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alll those flickr pics call him "Fred"

[Cruzincat]

At this point AP may have to sink beneath the waves in order for online poker to survive. If the other sites do nothing to help sink AP, they may get sucked down with them.

[tarheeljks]

if the law wants online poker crippled/gone, letting this play out is in its favor.

[adanthar]

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When can the law get involved?

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You know, you aren't the first or hundredth person to ask this kinda ridiculous question, so let me ask you one in return:

You've got 90% of the facts that we do and more apparent willingness to go waste a whole bunch of time talking to police of unknown effectiveness in multiple countries in different languages than I do, so why not take the lead and do something about it?