Is Showboat the toughest casino to play in AC?

[phazeONE]

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I play NL10 online and am a winning player at 1/2 Live and my winrate at NL10 is WAY higher in bb/100 terms. I am willing to say I probably have a bigger sample at NL10 AND Live then most of the experts. (because if they are experts they are playing higher).

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The sample size of your live experience is guaranteed to be tiny, EVERYONE's live experience sample size is tiny. Most 4 tablers who play 2 hours daily have experienced more hands in a year than Doyle Brunson has in a lifetime playing live.

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If the sample size is too low then how can we determine if it really is easier??

[NickMPK]

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I play NL10 online and am a winning player at 1/2 Live and my winrate at NL10 is WAY higher in bb/100 terms. I am willing to say I probably have a bigger sample at NL10 AND Live then most of the experts. (because if they are experts they are playing higher).

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The sample size of your live experience is guaranteed to be tiny, EVERYONE's live experience sample size is tiny. Most 4 tablers who play 2 hours daily have experienced more hands in a year than Doyle Brunson has in a lifetime playing live.

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How can this possibly be correct? A 4-tabler probably gets 12 times the hands per hour that a live player gets. But if you are only playing 2 hours/day, you play 3 times as many hand/year as someone who plays live 8-hours per day. So Doyle would play this number of hands in no more than three years.

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I play NL10 online and am a winning player at 1/2 Live and my winrate at NL10 is WAY higher in bb/100 terms. I am willing to say I probably have a bigger sample at NL10 AND Live then most of the experts. (because if they are experts they are playing higher).

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The sample size of your live experience is guaranteed to be tiny, EVERYONE's live experience sample size is tiny. Most 4 tablers who play 2 hours daily have experienced more hands in a year than Doyle Brunson has in a lifetime playing live.

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How can this possibly be correct? A 4-tabler probably gets 12 times the hands per hour that a live player gets. But if you are only playing 2 hours/day, you play 3 times as many hand/year as someone who plays live 8-hours per day. So Doyle would play this number of hands in no more than three years.

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Doyle doesn't play every day for long sessions, its been said one of his strengths is knowing when to quit a game; the man has incredible self control. Also remember poker isn't his only source of income. He is a very successful sports better, has investments, etc.

Using limit poker as the example (because Doyle is primarily a limit player even though he is the first-man of NL) lets assume he is getting 35 hands/hour live while an online short handed specialist is getting up to 100 hands/hour. Over a 2 hour period thats an 11.4:1 ratio.

I'll give you that my 2 hour example was a bit reaching, but using the figures above if we assume Doyle plays an average of 40 hours/week at most over a 40 year period that would be 2,912,000 hands over the course of his lifetime. We probably have guys in the short handed forums on 2+2 with databases that big after a 3-4 year period. Without a doubt today's internet players learn faster and experience more situations than any of our poker forefathers - I don't think anyone disputes that fact anymore - thats what really matters, not the example I used.

[Mandor_TFL]

I just played an hour of 1/2 NL at Showboat. I was down 9 dollars. Clearly the showboat fish are rigged. So I went back to Caesars and won 300 bucks.


Bottomline is the Showboat fish must be rigged.


Btw on the serious side I did notice massive weak tight tendencies from my table, So I raised with nothing and made 1/2 pot C-bets to take it down 5 ways. It was odd, and it made up for the 100 bucks I lost with KQ against AK, with 2 K's on the board. There was not a single good player at the table, a lotta shortstacks though which is why I left. My 300 buy-in had the table covered.


If you think 1/2 NL is hard, you need to read the strategy forums more or learn more discipline. Because its rare to see more than 1 or 2 good players at a table. ( at least in the evenings in AC )

[xxrod17xx]

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The Borgata is full of morons. I've never been to Showboat, but the room is smaller. The Borg has better game selection.

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[Gonso]

Seriously, and I know I've said this a million times, but...

There is very little long term difference between the various poker rooms in AC, in terms gameplay at low limits. We have like 11 casinos, and a couple of them don't even have poker rooms - it's a really tiny, tiny world. You see a lot of the same faces over and over again. In every room you'll find 1/2NL tables with grinders, lagtards, TAGs, rocks, maniacs, calling stations, and a good mix of really clueless players.

Sometimes the composition of your particular table will be better than other times, but there is no one magical poker room that's dramatically easier or harder than the others. After a great (or bad) session, it might not seem that way, but it's true.

Now, games in different regions can play vastly differently with the same game, but that's another issue.

[Dima2000123]

Generally 1/2 NL games are soft, but it doesn't mean that any table that you can pick is a gold mine. Sometimes you can really sit down at a stinker, with a couple of good TAGs, and the rest being weak-tight nits. Good luck prying any money away from those without a cooler. Sometimes you can sit down at a good table, but then a couple of busted fish get replaced by a couple of youngsters who are obviously putting in hours online. You have to know when the switch tables.

[F0rtysxity]

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There is very little long term difference between the various poker rooms in AC, in terms gameplay at low limits. We have like 11 casinos, and a couple of them don't even have poker rooms - it's a really tiny, tiny world. You see a lot of the same faces over and over again. In every room you'll find 1/2NL tables with grinders, lagtards, TAGs, rocks, maniacs, calling stations, and a good mix of really clueless players.

Sometimes the composition of your particular table will be better than other times, but there is no one magical poker room that's dramatically easier or harder than the others. After a great (or bad) session, it might not seem that way, but it's true.

Now, games in different regions can play vastly differently with the same game, but that's another issue.

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While this is the single possible best answer you'll get to this question, my heart tells me that Ceasars 1-2 is just terrible and that the Taj 1-2 is the stuff of legends. The only time I've seen more ppl high on drugs is at a rave.