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Old 11-28-2007, 09:12 PM
dickkemp dickkemp is offline
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Default JJ in big

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t3210)
UTG+1 (t1515)
MP1 (t955)
MP2 (t1095)
CO (t1780)
Button (t2165)
SB (t1310)
Hero (t1470)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, MP2 calls t30, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Button calls t30, SB calls t15, Hero checks

Flop: (t150) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="red">Button bets t90</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>

anyone play this differently?
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: JJ in big

Bet/fold or check/call the flop.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: JJ in big

I like a raise preflop here, and I agree you should either bet/fold or check/call.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:23 PM
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Default Re: JJ in big

at this level i feel im just building a pot OOP and with this many players to flop somebody has an A. what if there was only one A on flop? still say check call?
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:25 PM
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I think that I would have raised preflop with the 4 callers. Against 4 callers, who cares if two aces flop, you are folding your hand here if any A,Q,or K flops. You have to isolate legit hands pf and when you get smacked on the flop you will feel better about your fold. I like the fact that you minimize your loss. Many would chase here for reasons that I am sure will follow.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:27 PM
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On an Axx flop I am folding (though I would have played pf differently). Its much different not only because its a bit less likely for them to have the ace but more importantly not many people lead with flopped trips in low stakes games. You can call and reevaluate later streets when very often they won't have Ax.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:39 PM
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Flop is a c/f with so many ppl to see it it's very likely someone just hit his trips(since ppl looove to play any A).
But I certainly raise this for value preflop.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:08 PM
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I would be c/c flop and folding to further turn action.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:10 AM
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I would be c/c flop and folding to further turn action.

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Agree.

and OP,
raising pf isnt a bad idea, either.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:30 AM
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Was your intention to trap with a favorable flop? I like making a nice size re-raise instead of Letting 3 people limp otherwise ur just inviting more drawing hands to beat you, plus the scary flop kills the hand for you. A pre-flop raise might have at least chased away a weak ace, with a follow up continuation bet you might still take it down.
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