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11-07-2007, 12:34 PM
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Re: River value?
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i explain the flop check in the op. only concerned w/ river here [/ QUOTE ] well the flop check is terrible into two passive players, so lets address the simple things you are doing wrong first. 
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#23
11-07-2007, 12:40 PM
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Re: River value?
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[ QUOTE ] i explain the flop check in the op. only concerned w/ river here [/ QUOTE ] well the flop check is terrible into two passive players, so lets address the simple things you are doing wrong first. [/ QUOTE ] ikes he said the one villan has been raising every ccbet. the second is passive tho still hate the flop check?
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#26
11-07-2007, 12:44 PM
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Re: River value?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] i explain the flop check in the op. only concerned w/ river here [/ QUOTE ] well the flop check is terrible into two passive players, so lets address the simple things you are doing wrong first. [/ QUOTE ] ikes he said the one villan has been raising every ccbet. the second is passive tho still hate the flop check? [/ QUOTE ] if reg bets and fish calls, even worse spot IMO and even if fish folds its still an annoying spot as c/raising is dumb against competent players (only get called by better or shoved on with poor equity against his range), and cold calling just makes u lost in the hand, leading out is much better, maaaaaybe u could do this with a stronger hand (c/raising makes much more sense with it) but even then it would suck if this flop was checked around.
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#27
11-07-2007, 12:46 PM
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Re: River value?
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yes, obv if he's raising every cbet just go broke [/ QUOTE ] hes been raising a lot of c-bets op said but with a fish behind and the fact that villain had apparently been playing back a lot - i think he is more likely to show up with a hand, i think reg's raising and shove calling range is waay ahead of hero's hand in this spot.
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#29
11-07-2007, 12:50 PM
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Re: River value?
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[ QUOTE ] yes, obv if he's raising every cbet just go broke [/ QUOTE ] hes been raising a lot of c-bets op said but with a fish behind and the fact that villain had apparently been playing back a lot - i think he is more likely to show up with a hand, i think reg's raising and shove calling range is waay ahead of hero's hand in this spot. [/ QUOTE ] learn what a conditional operator means... IF he's raising every cbet just go broke. I don't see him raising extremely light here (b/c its multiway), but theres all sort of [censored] he and the fish can call with.... just bet.
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#30
11-07-2007, 12:54 PM
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Re: River value?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] yes, obv if he's raising every cbet just go broke [/ QUOTE ] hes been raising a lot of c-bets op said but with a fish behind and the fact that villain had apparently been playing back a lot - i think he is more likely to show up with a hand, i think reg's raising and shove calling range is waay ahead of hero's hand in this spot. [/ QUOTE ] learn what a conditional operator means... IF he's raising every cbet just go broke. I don't see him raising extremely light here (b/c its multiway), but theres all sort of [censored] he and the fish can call with.... just bet. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, I agree with betting as said earlier, but not with going broke against reg. If villain is raising literally every c-bet over a decent smaple (4 c-bets or more) then sure go broke as hes prob a monkey.
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