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Old 08-20-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default AK against NIT inside money

Just inside money, Villain who is 13.2/4.0 over 65 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1600 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 (t44654)
MP2 (t13576)
CO (t22450)
Button (t73874)
Hero (t25860)
BB (t41107)
UTG (t38424)
UTG+1 (t76728)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, A.
4 folds</font>, CO raises to t22300</font>, 1 fold</font>, Hero raises to t25710</font>, 1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t48910) 8, 4, 6 (2 players)</font>

Turn: (t48910) Q (2 players)</font>

River: (t48910) 7 (2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t45500

Good call or should I be looking to lay this down against this nit???
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:59 PM
SuperUberBob SuperUberBob is offline
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Default Re: AK against NIT inside money

I never fold AK preflop deep in a MTT. Ever. Stacks are too short to be that selective.
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Old 08-20-2007, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: AK against NIT inside money

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.865% 46.28% 10.58% 399407448 91334412.00 { 99+, AQs+, AKo }
Hand 1: 43.135% 32.55% 10.58% 280924944 91334412.00 { AKo }


That is against the top 4% of hands. I'd assume he is raising wider than that from the CO.
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Old 08-20-2007, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: AK against NIT inside money

I can't ever be expected to lay down AK in this spot. Villian although nitty could very well be opening up to steal the blinds and keep himself above water. For me it's a mandatory snap call. I like the double up, with potential to go much deeper if I win.
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Old 08-20-2007, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: AK against NIT inside money

Pretty standard call sir. I throw in a fist pump from time to time as well.
Its probably a pair most of the time, but he certainly is not open folding AJ or AQ. Stacks are not very deep so this is a good spot to accumulate chips.

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Old 08-21-2007, 07:53 AM
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Default Re: AK against NIT inside money

I even threw in a fist pump for motivation, but it didnt help. Im thinking about doing a double fist pump from now on, maybe I need that extra energy.

I was hoping that his opening range was wider since it was folded to him in the CO. So basically im never folding AK deep in a tournament for most/all my stack?????
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:05 AM
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Default Re: AK against NIT inside money

Very rarely. I wouldn't totally discount AA here but you can weight it less and he's not going to open fold AJ+ and very rarely plans to raise-fold it, even as a nit, from CO. I think, even from a nit, in LP, 77+, AJ+ is just going to look too pretty to fold or limp in LP and I think, if anything, nits are more likely to shove a hand like 88 or AQ than raise it at this stage. So, he's very rarely got you dominated and you quote often have him dominated and the rest is a pot odds flip: call.
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:41 AM
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Default Re: AK against NIT inside money

I understand hes more likely to limp or small raise with a premium hand here as opposed to open shoving. That was part of my reasoning to calling here, thinking exactly that. That he had like 88-JJ/AJ+.

I mean am I overthinking for a $3 rebuy event or should I be thinking along these lines, as to getting better and making me better than most of the guys im playing at this level???
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:17 AM
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Default Re: AK against NIT inside money

This is fairly straightforward MTT stuff. You assign a range of hands that he can do this with and then calculate your equity against that range, given the money in the pot. You can use PokerStove to do this. I don't bother personally. If I have AK and I have less than 20BBs in my stack, as long as I feel that villain is sometimes shoving a weaker ace, I know I'm right to call.

So, the nittiest range here is like TT+, AQ+ and that's a call if you stove it. His range is wider. Obviously it sucks if he's pushing the top of his range on this occasion but that's just MTT poker for you.
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: AK against NIT inside money

Right and I understand that. I use pokerstove alot as ive just started playing tournaments, to help with range assignments. I knew it was a right call, I just needed the reinforcement I guess.

Any yes of course villain had AA.
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